Issues With TSN.CA

[MSP4LYFE]

Shiv, you're 100% right man.. I think Kareem brought this up to stir shit up, I really do.. it's the way Kareem is lol.

Even if that were the case (it's not), my points are no less valid.

[Robin Hood]

kareem. do this. you nick and bry get together and make a list of players who you feel are misrepresented by the current league eligibility. make a list. lets start there. this shit isnt getting us anywhere. lets take a new approach. which players are the problem?

[MSP4LYFE]

kareem. do this. you nick and bry get together and make a list of players who you feel are misrepresented by the current league eligibility. make a list. lets start there. this shit isnt getting us anywhere. lets take a new approach. which players are the problem?

I will make a list when I get home from class at 7.

[Lee]

I found 4 players that I can mark as dual eligible if that helps:

Marc Antoine Pouliot: http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id ... -lightning
Kris Draper: http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1458
John Mitchell: http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id ... aple_leafs
Jochen Hecht: http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=646

[Scott]

I going to say this one time.. it doesn't matter what everyone wants, I'm using TSN because the CC decided to use one source, I''m selecting TSN. I hope Mike and Matt follow suit.. the 3 of us are the final decision anyway. The CC has done their job, made a decision and whether or not Kareem feels TSN isn't reliable or causes problems is irrelevant.

Good debate though...

[Robin Hood]

Kareem, Kezia and Everyone else. List the players here please:

http://www.bbklhockey.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1568

[Robin Hood]

I going to say this one time.. it doesn't matter what everyone wants, I'm using TSN because the CC decided to use one source, I''m selecting TSN. I hope Mike and Matt follow suit.. the 3 of us are the final decision anyway. The CC has done their job, made a decision and whether or not Kareem feels TSN isn't reliable or causes problems is irrelevant.

Good debate though...

i completely agree. im trying to deal with the uproar here. thats all.

[shooker]

I going to say this one time.. it doesn't matter what everyone wants, I'm using TSN because the CC decided to use one source, I''m selecting TSN. I hope Mike and Matt follow suit.. the 3 of us are the final decision anyway. The CC has done their job, made a decision and whether or not Kareem feels TSN isn't reliable or causes problems is irrelevant.

Good debate though...

the CC decided to use one source....tsn was a suggestion that was never voted on. Why can't the CC who were the ones that found flaws along with kareem decide that hey this wasnt the best option and put up a new idea? we never voted to say tsn was the sole option, we decided to use one. If everyone is dual eligable this is a joke. As for you suggestion Shiv I will do so, I will make a list of players that should have dual eligability and don't and also a list for the opposite. I dont think the CC has done our job, we are in the midst of doing it imo.

[shooker]

Also, you guys can say I'm biased or whatever all you want but Sportsnet listed Adams, Laich & Fleischmann as wingers and Dubinsky as a centre. TSN gives Dubinsky dual eligibility but other than him, I only have 4 centres. I just truly believe that sportsnet is fucking bogus, they're the absolute worst hockey site anywhere. I'd prefer ESPN over them and they're pretty fucking bad..

TSN is miles upon miles ahead of sportsnet...

this should show you were are unbiased and feel as an overal it is a better option and not for personal gain.

[kyuss]

sigh.

[Scott]

Also, you guys can say I'm biased or whatever all you want but Sportsnet listed Adams, Laich & Fleischmann as wingers and Dubinsky as a centre. TSN gives Dubinsky dual eligibility but other than him, I only have 4 centres. I just truly believe that sportsnet is fucking bogus, they're the absolute worst hockey site anywhere. I'd prefer ESPN over them and they're pretty fucking bad..

TSN is miles upon miles ahead of sportsnet...

this should show you were are unbiased and feel as an overal it is a better option and not for personal gain.

I'm not sure what you mean.. I feel TSN is much better and I'm not in it for personal gain. I'm fine with either option (Sportsnet or TSN) as in my current roster.. I just like TSN a ton more because of their track record.

[shooker]

Also, you guys can say I'm biased or whatever all you want but Sportsnet listed Adams, Laich & Fleischmann as wingers and Dubinsky as a centre. TSN gives Dubinsky dual eligibility but other than him, I only have 4 centres. I just truly believe that sportsnet is fucking bogus, they're the absolute worst hockey site anywhere. I'd prefer ESPN over them and they're pretty fucking bad..

TSN is miles upon miles ahead of sportsnet...

this should show you were are unbiased and feel as an overal it is a better option and not for personal gain.

I'm not sure what you mean.. I feel TSN is much better and I'm not in it for personal gain. I'm fine with either option (Sportsnet or TSN) as in my current roster.. I just like TSN a ton more because of their track record.

Well now that you are being reasonable and unemotional we can discuss lol. My only meaning behind quoting your statement was that everyone seems to think Nick, Kareem and I have some agenda and that we are only trying to switch to hurt other peoples rosters. You know nick thinks adams is a center yet he still wants to go by this site. We just felt this site was better overal and that more players were placed in proper positions. That is what I was trying to say there.

[Scott]

I'm not thinking about me though and I'm not assuming you guys are thinking about you guys. Really what it boils down to is that there are players that play more than one position and Sportsnet list 0 players as such.. it's ridiculous. Not to mention Sportsnet is horrible lol.

Trust me, this isn't about me.. it's about the league and what's best for it!!

I'm not nor was I emotional during the debate/conversation.. you must of just read that in my posts.

[shooker]

I'm not thinking about me though and I'm not assuming you guys are thinking about you guys. Really what it boils down to is that there are players that play more than one position and Sportsnet list 0 players as such.. it's ridiculous. Not to mention Sportsnet is horrible lol.

Trust me, this isn't about me.. it's about the league and what's best for it!!

I'm not nor was I emotional during the debate/conversation.. you must of just read that in my posts.

well imo it is alot easier to get a player dual eligability than to take his away from him. going off a site where they are listed as there primary position and then going from there would be alot easier to do. That is my arguement. I would rather start with a site that has dubinsky as a C and give him dual eligability, than start with a site that has Dats dual eligable. To me it isnt comparable. As to your comment about sportsnet, the channel and tv broadcasting might not be as high quality but as far as I can tell the site is right up there.

[Scott]

I'm not thinking about me though and I'm not assuming you guys are thinking about you guys. Really what it boils down to is that there are players that play more than one position and Sportsnet list 0 players as such.. it's ridiculous. Not to mention Sportsnet is horrible lol.

Trust me, this isn't about me.. it's about the league and what's best for it!!

I'm not nor was I emotional during the debate/conversation.. you must of just read that in my posts.

well imo it is alot easier to get a player dual eligability than to take his away from him. going off a site where they are listed as there primary position and then going from there would be alot easier to do. That is my arguement. I would rather start with a site that has dubinsky as a C and give him dual eligability, than start with a site that has Dats dual eligable. To me it isnt comparable. As to your comment about sportsnet, the channel and tv broadcasting might not be as high quality but as far as I can tell the site is right up there.

But listing Dubinsky as LW/C tells you how fast TSN is at updating their site. Dubinsky played a lot of LW last season and is going to continue there this year. It's not rocket science here.. John Tortorella said himself Dubinsky plays best as a LWer.. now if he's never played there, is he guessing? Did he try him there for 1 game? Like think about it man.. how can we start a season with 0 dual eligibility when there are a ton of guys who deserve it and GM's who've done their due dilligence to acquire an upper hand through players with this eligibility.

[inferno31]

This is what I was talking about previously though.

TSN looks at last season and gives off dual eligibilities to too many players often.
Sportsnet makes predictions off what we aren't sure about where people are suppose to play this season.

Using Sportsnet we will end up reseting every one of our dual eligible players every single off season. Using TSN this won't be a problem it'll be more continuous and more like our keeper league.
Also discussing changing over 50+ players weeks before our rosters are due seems foolish.

The middle ground between TSN and Sportsnet seems to be CBS to be honest.

[MSP4LYFE]

After reading Scott's comments I give up...I've had enough of this shit, there are far better uses of my time then arguing with a group of uneducated and largely illiterate group of individuals. Scott and Mike are going to do as they please, no different from day one. To think I could change that approach now is the definition of insanity.

[Shep]

What's the problem with leaving it as is?

[Scott]

After reading Scott's comments I give up...I've had enough of this shit, there are far better uses of my time then arguing with a group of uneducated and largely illiterate group of individuals. Scott and Mike are going to do as they please, no different from day one. To think I could change that approach now is the definition of insanity.

For the most part we've let the CC make decisions and you know it. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. But you're right, Mike and I are going to have a little chat and things are going to change for sure. There's too much whining going on, too much out-cry over settled issues and retardedness. This league is supposed to be FUN, first and foremost.. and quite frankly Kareem, you suck the fun out of this more often than not. You constantly bash people, call people retarded or other names, you brag about your team so much it probably makes everyone sick, you constantly stick your nose into shit that's none of your concern, you're nothing but confrontational and can almost never be nice to someone, and the list goes on and on. Honestly, the only good thing about you is you're active and form some competition.. other than that, you're pretty much a liability to the league and cause more problems then anyone. Mike had grounds to remove you from being a global mod, I totally supported him in that and you've been knee deep in shit so many times on here it's uncountable. Uneducated as nothing to do with anything, it's a FACT TSN murders Sportsnet and it's not even close. If you think you're that much better than everyone here, please do us all a favour and quit!

Anyway, this is peanuts of a problem and it's blown into a fucking riot here.. and because of why? Sportsnet is a joke, you know it, I know it, we all know it! The CC decided to use 1 site and for me, that site will be TSN, period!! It's not even up for debate, it's final!!

[MSP4LYFE]

After reading Scott's comments I give up...I've had enough of this shit, there are far better uses of my time then arguing with a group of uneducated and largely illiterate group of individuals. Scott and Mike are going to do as they please, no different from day one. To think I could change that approach now is the definition of insanity.

For the most part we've let the CC make decisions and you know it. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. But you're right, Mike and I are going to have a little chat and things are going to change for sure. There's too much whining going on, too much out-cry over settled issues and retardedness. This league is supposed to be FUN, first and foremost.. and quite frankly Kareem, you suck the fun out of this more often than not. You constantly bash people, call people retarded or other names, you brag about your team so much it probably makes everyone sick, you constantly stick your nose into shit that's none of your concern, you're nothing but confrontational and can almost never be nice to someone, and the list goes on and on. Honestly, the only good thing about you is you're active and form some competition.. other than that, you're pretty much a liability to the league and cause more problems then anyone. Mike had grounds to remove you from being a global mod, I totally supported him in that and you've been knee deep in shit so many times on here it's uncountable. Uneducated as nothing to do with anything, it's a FACT TSN murders Sportsnet and it's not even close. If you think you're that much better than everyone here, please do us all a favour and quit!

Anyway, this is peanuts of a problem and it's blown into a fucking riot here.. and because of why? Sportsnet is a joke, you know it, I know it, we all know it! The CC decided to use 1 site and for me, that site will be TSN, period!! It's not even up for debate, it's final!!

Cool.