CC Ruling on Position Eligibility

[armandtanzarian]

With a result of 5-0 we voted to use one sole source of information in case of dispute. TSN was chosen. If you have a problem with a players position in CBS, provide a mod with proof from TSN and it can be modified. This ruling is effective for the 2010-2011 season.

[Shep]

Just out of curiosity, how come TSN.ca over NHL.com?

[MSP4LYFE]

Good resolution: Nick, Scott, Bryan, Kyle, Steve, Billy, and Tony.

[MSP4LYFE]

Just out of curiosity, how come TSN.ca over NHL.com?

They are more up to date, and consistent.

[armandtanzarian]

Just out of curiosity, how come TSN.ca over NHL.com?

Heres one reason: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?letter=Z vs http://www.nhl.com/ice/playersearch.htm?letter=Z

There is more info and prospects on TSN. They actually support and update dual eligibility and i would actually dare to say they have just as much if not more dedicated staff than the actual league does. They are on the ball and are constantly updating including player positions. Pretty easy decision....

[armandtanzarian]

Just out of curiosity, how come TSN.ca over NHL.com?

They are more up to date, and consistent.

great thinker...

[Nick]

With a result of 5-0 we voted to leave things as they are and use one sole source of information in case of dispute. TSN was chosen. If you have a problem with a players position in CBS, provide a mod with proof from TSN and it can be modified. This ruling is effective for the 2010-2011 season.

We voted to use TSN, not to "leave things as they are", small clarification.

[Shep]

Ok cool.

[kyuss]

Good resolution: Nick, Scott, Bryan, Kyle, Steve, Billy, and Tony.

weren't only 5 members?

[kyuss]

With a result of 5-0 we voted to leave things as they are and use one sole source of information in case of dispute. TSN was chosen. If you have a problem with a players position in CBS, provide a mod with proof from TSN and it can be modified. This ruling is effective for the 2010-2011 season.

I think some things need to be clarified.

- will we update positions during the season ? i'm guessing yes going by how you wrote it down.

- if that's the case, will changes be available only until our trade deadline or even beyond? i think should be the first.

- if we update positions during the season, will changes only add to CBS' positions or will we use exactly TSN positions? I'm in favour of the latter, even though that could mean losing a player for a position during the season (losing dual eligibility or simply because of a position switch.. but i think would be a rarity using TSN, as it doesn't mind using double eligibility).
The best thing would probably be going exactly with TSN positions until the start of the season, and only add eventual changes during the season, but how could we check that the position eligibility indeed changed during the season and was not already different before the start? i mean, a GM could hide that, just to ask for the role addition (instead of the switch) once the season starts...

- i guess GMs could ask for corrections that pertain other teams too, right?

[Nick]

any BBKL member can point out a discrepancy and the change will be made.... tsn = word of god for this season... they chance and so do we? or do we have a warning period? or a date of change?

[Robin Hood]

any BBKL member can point out a discrepancy and the change will be made.... tsn = word of god for this season... they chance and so do we? or do we have a warning period? or a date of change?

imo positions changes are permissable ONLY until the season starts. after that a position can only be added not subtracted. subtractions should only be allowed in the off season.

[Nick]

any BBKL member can point out a discrepancy and the change will be made.... tsn = word of god for this season... they chance and so do we? or do we have a warning period? or a date of change?

imo positions changes are permissable ONLY until the season starts. after that a position can only be added not subtracted. subtractions should only be allowed in the off season.

i like a warning period.

[Robin Hood]

any BBKL member can point out a discrepancy and the change will be made.... tsn = word of god for this season... they chance and so do we? or do we have a warning period? or a date of change?

imo positions changes are permissable ONLY until the season starts. after that a position can only be added not subtracted. subtractions should only be allowed in the off season.

i like a warning period.

i just feel like as long as we allow subtrating positional eligibility in the summer we are being fair. because gms spend a lot of time planning in the off season for their teams. with all that planning to subtract away a position WHILE the season is ongoing even with a warning period is unfair to the gm. why not just tell them before the season starts, and they can make their adjustments. after that, if changes happen, the gms who end up with dual eligible players get them only for that season. at the end of the season that eligibility gets taken away. i say this because yahoo uses this exact system for fantasy hockey. i.e. there was a time when semin was LW on yahoo. later that season they made him LW/RW because of the ovechkin-backstrom-semin line. and this season he is only an RW.

[kyuss]

i like a warning period.

i just feel like as long as we allow subtrating positional eligibility in the summer we are being fair. because gms spend a lot of time planning in the off season for their teams. with all that planning to subtract away a position WHILE the season is ongoing even with a warning period is unfair to the gm. why not just tell them before the season starts, and they can make their adjustments.

i think the warning period (during the reg. season) could work well cause TSN would quite rarely substract positional eligibility, they seem to use dual eligibility fairly often.

after that, if changes happen, the gms who end up with dual eligible players get them only for that season. at the end of the season that eligibility gets taken away. i say this because yahoo uses this exact system for fantasy hockey.

i can't see why. If TSN updated the positional eligibility chances are it was for good reasons, so why should we take it away the next off-season? let's do it only if TSN does.. (when you play with yahoo, you take it away only if yahoo does)

i.e. there was a time when semin was LW on yahoo. later that season they made him LW/RW because of the ovechkin-backstrom-semin line. and this season he is only an RW.

which, of course, is retarded.

[Robin Hood]

i like a warning period.

i just feel like as long as we allow subtrating positional eligibility in the summer we are being fair. because gms spend a lot of time planning in the off season for their teams. with all that planning to subtract away a position WHILE the season is ongoing even with a warning period is unfair to the gm. why not just tell them before the season starts, and they can make their adjustments.

i think the warning period (during the reg. season) could work well cause TSN would quite rarely substract positional eligibility, they seem to use dual eligibility fairly often.

after that, if changes happen, the gms who end up with dual eligible players get them only for that season. at the end of the season that eligibility gets taken away. i say this because yahoo uses this exact system for fantasy hockey.

i can't see why. If TSN updated the positional eligibility chances are it was for good reasons, so why should we take it away the next off-season? let's do it only if TSN does.. (when you play with yahoo, you take it away only if yahoo does)

i.e. there was a time when semin was LW on yahoo. later that season they made him LW/RW because of the ovechkin-backstrom-semin line. and this season he is only an RW.

which, of course, is retarded.

i think you read what i was saying wrong. but im too lazy to clarify and everything you just said i agree with. we'll allow for warning periods during the season because tsn would rarely subtract positional eligibility during the season <---key point that you brought up. problem solved.

[armandtanzarian]

With a result of 5-0 we voted to leave things as they are and use one sole source of information in case of dispute. TSN was chosen. If you have a problem with a players position in CBS, provide a mod with proof from TSN and it can be modified. This ruling is effective for the 2010-2011 season.

We voted to use TSN, not to "leave things as they are", small clarification.

fixed..

[Nick]

2 week warning period?