bma wroteCOLONdave1959 wroteCOLONbma wroteCOLONMy personal trade conversations with Dave have been frustrating. That is all I can say.
why, because I won't just GIVE you Kane??
me: What do you want for Kane?
you: lots
me: take a look at my team and let me know what you like (link posted)
you: you're the one that wants him.
me: i appreciate the reply..but i asked you to take a look at my team to see what you like. This way I have a better idea of what it would take for me to get Kane. Not sure if there's some misunderstanding. (link posted again)
you: no reply
I hate negotiations like that so I completely get where you are coming from.
Any time someone says "Hey, Shiv - I want Player X from you. What will it take?", I give a straight up answer right away because I feel that the person has made an effort to reach out and to just say something like "Pavelski is untouchable" is not fair at all because every player has a price. Now if my price is too high and the GM decides to take it poorly, then that's on them.
What I've realized is that this is a market of 30 teams. It is finite. I will need to trade with every GM at some point in time and sometimes they will reach out and others I will. It's important to have a give and take. Otherwise, when I actually need help moving a guy to say clear a roster spot because I'm at the contract limit, or cut cap etc., my reluctance to help someone else will only make them more reluctant to help me.
Cliff's a guy that I have great talks with because of this. We make like 10 trades a year and in the process of negotiating those deals, there are low balls thrown out by both parties. But we just LOL and move on. Cliff always says this one line that I love "Had to ask because if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing my job as a GM".
