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Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:29 pm
by Shoalzie
To Detroit:
Jason Labarbera

To St. Louis:
J.T. Brown
2014 3rd Rounder (BOS)

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:44 pm
by Shep
Yep.

3 straight back-up goalie trades.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:17 pm
by CAM
Reptesentin for systems.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:04 pm
by Tony
Domino effect waiting on me ... sorry fellas

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:26 pm
by Shep
Tony wroteCOLONDomino effect waiting on me ... sorry fellas
Don't worry about that. I wasn't exactly going out of my way to get it all done.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:10 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Did thebarber sign in edmonton?

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:02 am
by Tony
Yes, LaBandaid dId ...

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:32 am
by Shoalzie
It's going to suck next year when both Dubnyk and Labarbera walk and Edmonton starts over in goal...

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:50 am
by The BBKL Insider
Shoalzie wroteCOLONIt's going to suck next year when both Dubnyk and Labarbera walk and Edmonton starts over in goal...
Dubby wont walk (at least i dont think)

however, dont be surprised if the Oilers try to trade for Reimer mid-season.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:56 am
by Chuck Norris
Big Fun wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONIt's going to suck next year when both Dubnyk and Labarbera walk and Edmonton starts over in goal...
Dubby wont walk (at least i dont think)

however, dont be surprised if the Oilers try to trade for Reimer mid-season.
Nobody wants that plug....

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:07 am
by shooker
Chuck Norris wroteCOLON
Big Fun wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONIt's going to suck next year when both Dubnyk and Labarbera walk and Edmonton starts over in goal...
Dubby wont walk (at least i dont think)

however, dont be surprised if the Oilers try to trade for Reimer mid-season.
Nobody wants that plug....
+1

It's amazing how forgiving leaf fans were of Reimer. If Carlysl, and his system weren't there, Reims rebound control would have forced Nonis to make a trade much sooner. I'd rather Jose Theodore as the Canucks backup than Reimer.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:13 am
by Arian The Insider
for a whole day i thought J.T. Miller was in this deal instead of J.T. Brown lol. That changes things.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:14 am
by MSP4LYFE
That is just dumb Shooker... Reimer has been a .920% goalie in two of his three seasons. You make it seem like Reimer was playing behind the Bruins, when in reality he helped the Leafs defense, as much, if not more than Carlyle's "system."

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:17 am
by The BBKL Insider
shooker wroteCOLON
Chuck Norris wroteCOLON
Big Fun wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONIt's going to suck next year when both Dubnyk and Labarbera walk and Edmonton starts over in goal...
Dubby wont walk (at least i dont think)

however, dont be surprised if the Oilers try to trade for Reimer mid-season.
Nobody wants that plug....
+1

It's amazing how forgiving leaf fans were of Reimer. If Carlysl, and his system weren't there, Reims rebound control would have forced Nonis to make a trade much sooner. I'd rather Jose Theodore as the Canucks backup than Reimer.
i agree, only because Thoedore sucks and would make a worse backup.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:52 pm
by shooker
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONThat is just dumb Shooker... Reimer has been a .920% goalie in two of his three seasons. You make it seem like Reimer was playing behind the Bruins, when in reality he helped the Leafs defense, as much, if not more than Carlyle's "system."
Completely disagree Kareem as stats can be misleading. In his first season he was a legit goaltender, I don't think you can argue that was when he was at his best. However after a season in the league coaches figure out how to beat you and he was unable to adapt ala Raycroft, Carey etc. I feel he benefited enormously from a team dedicated to defense last year rather than playing well. That being said, I think I only saw 15 regular season games and 7 playoff games. Roughly 50% of his total games last season might not be a large enough sample size to make a call like that though....


You have a legit goalie now imo. Time will tell though.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:59 pm
by Nick
I did not feel like Reimer was a good goalie last year, at all - despite his numbers indicating that he was solid. Stats without the context are not useful.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:04 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Reimer see's the puck well, it just bounces off him too often.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:06 pm
by bma
Goalies in the NHL are like runnings backs in the NFL. The system plays a big role with how a goalie fares just like how the offensive line plays a big role in how a running back plays.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:09 pm
by MSP4LYFE
shooker wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONThat is just dumb Shooker... Reimer has been a .920% goalie in two of his three seasons. You make it seem like Reimer was playing behind the Bruins, when in reality he helped the Leafs defense, as much, if not more than Carlyle's "system."
Completely disagree Kareem as stats can be misleading. In his first season he was a legit goaltender, I don't think you can argue that was when he was at his best. However after a season in the league coaches figure out how to beat you and he was unable to adapt ala Raycroft, Carey etc. I feel he benefited enormously from a team dedicated to defense last year rather than playing well. That being said, I think I only saw 15 regular season games and 7 playoff games. Roughly 50% of his total games last season might not be a large enough sample size to make a call like that though....


You have a legit goalie now imo. Time will tell though.
Forget stats then, from a purely qualitative stand-point I thought Reimer saved the Leafs ass on an almost nightly basis last season, and I watched every single game. His numbers reflected his performance, they were not a by-product of some brilliant system employed by Carlyle. The truth is that the Leafs were hemmed in their own zone for long periods, and out-shot almost every game. The Leafs did a much better job of limiting quality scoring chances and keeping opponents to the outside, but it wasn't good enough to make an average to below average goalie look well above average.

Re: Trade: DET/STL

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:13 pm
by shooker
bcool wroteCOLONGoalies in the NHL are like runnings backs in the NFL. The system plays a big role with how a goalie fares just like how the offensive line plays a big role in how a running back plays.
very true, but put Joseph Addai on Minny and he will still suck whereas I have a feeling Adrian Peterson wouldn't struggle at all on the Colts. The system can mask a poor player but it will never make a star out of them.