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PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:32 am
by Robin Hood
To Florida

Mike Cammalleri

To Pittsburgh

Tim Connolly

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:24 am
by Florida Chris
I agree

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:31 am
by kyuss
looks good to me Chris.

btw, how is that Cammalleri is currently a C on CBS? he is a winger for us http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3669

maybe CBS itself changed it? i see he is listed as C only there, whereas i already updated all the positions back in the Summer and he was a winger.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:09 am
by Florida Chris
kyuss wroteCOLONlooks good to me Chris.

btw, how is that Cammalleri is currently a C on CBS? he is a winger for us http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3669

maybe CBS itself changed it? i see he is listed as C only there, whereas i already updated all the positions back in the Summer and he was a winger.

never even noticed, CBS must of changed it...Cammy is a winger for sure

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:23 am
by The BBKL Insider
like this for chris, and by a lot!

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:40 am
by anton
kyuss wroteCOLONlooks good to me Chris.

btw, how is that Cammalleri is currently a C on CBS? he is a winger for us http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3669

maybe CBS itself changed it? i see he is listed as C only there, whereas i already updated all the positions back in the Summer and he was a winger.
Cammalleri played C from February onward last season.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:45 am
by cliff11
Easy win for Chris IMO

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:02 am
by kyuss
anton wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLONlooks good to me Chris.

btw, how is that Cammalleri is currently a C on CBS? he is a winger for us http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3669

maybe CBS itself changed it? i see he is listed as C only there, whereas i already updated all the positions back in the Summer and he was a winger.
Cammalleri played C from February onward last season.
not sure whether that will prove to be the exception or not moving forward, but for our parameters it was not enough to turn him into a bbkl C for the start of the season.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:50 am
by Tony
Cammy is the Flames top center going into the (eventual) season

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:21 pm
by Robin Hood
Yep, good trade for Chris.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:56 pm
by Nick
Tony wroteCOLONCammy is the Flames top center going into the (eventual) season

That is speculation, and not at all how our system works. And it did work :) I had 2 W's turned into Cs (negative impact on my team, but a positive accuracy move). Once Mike has played enough C, he will be properly listed as such, otherwise everyone is a C/W as desired by the owner based on a comment by a coach or sportsnet analyst... or hockey insider.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:55 pm
by Robin Hood
Man, Connolly is hated in this league. I don't understand the "Big/Easy win for Chris" comments, personally. Historical stats comparison vs the expected value from a player in Connolly's position show a pretty even trade.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:00 pm
by anton
all i was trying to do was explain why CBS might've changed Cammalleri to a C

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:20 pm
by Nick
anton wroteCOLONall i was trying to do was explain why CBS might've changed Cammalleri to a C
Oh no doubt. CBS changes lots of positions :P

And I was just clarifying/reminding: 228 FOT is not close to our line, nor is a FOR of .190 (228 face-offs over 1,195 minutes), ranks 6th of current players on his team -> Iggy had 426 & was 5th, is 4th on team...LOL

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:24 pm
by cliff11
SuperMario wroteCOLONMan, Connolly is hated in this league. I don't understand the "Big/Easy win for Chris" comments, personally. Historical stats comparison vs the expected value from a player in Connolly's position show a pretty even trade.

i just like Cammy a lot better than Connolly

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:07 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Cammy:
562GP 197G 228A 425P


Connolly:
697GP 131G 300A 431P


Cammy's played a career 130 games less than connolly and has only 6 points less. Cammy is a year younger, isn't as injury prone and can actually skate. For me this is a clear win, but that's just my opinion, i've certainly been wrong before.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:05 pm
by Robin Hood
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONCammy:
562GP 197G 228A 425P


Connolly:
697GP 131G 300A 431P


Cammy's played a career 130 games less than connolly and has only 6 points less. Cammy is a year younger, isn't as injury prone and can actually skate. For me this is a clear win, but that's just my opinion, i've certainly been wrong before.
Career stats never give the whole picture. Nor do just Goals, Assists and Points in BBKL. Connolly actually has a chance to get 500+ FOW and gets 100+ SHTOI while putting up similar points in recent years (which is what actually matters vs career stats as Cammy has not put up stellar numbers in many years).

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:07 pm
by The BBKL Insider
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONCammy:
562GP 197G 228A 425P


Connolly:
697GP 131G 300A 431P


Cammy's played a career 130 games less than connolly and has only 6 points less. Cammy is a year younger, isn't as injury prone and can actually skate. For me this is a clear win, but that's just my opinion, i've certainly been wrong before.
Career stats never give the whole picture. Nor do just Goals, Assists and Points in BBKL. Connolly actually has a chance to get 500+ FOW and gets 100+ SHTOI while putting up similar points in recent years (which is what actually matters vs career stats as Cammy has not put up stellar numbers in many years).
Don't get me wrong, i use to be a big Connolly fan, until we signed him and i got the pleasure of watching his slow ass hobble around the ice.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:10 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Also, if Cammy was still in Montreal i'd say this was a fair deal, but Cammy is a pretty good player in CGY, he seems to fit into that style more than the moronic french style that montreal plays.

Re: PIT/FLA

PostedCOLON Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:41 am
by bills09
Dont love the cycle for Shivster

Martin St. Louis for Tim Connolly Joe Colborne Keith Aulie.