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Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:10 pm
by Robin Hood
Players are sorted by Position, Cap and Colour - with approximate valuation in terms of stats included.

*Note - The included valuations are how I value the player. It is possible you do not agree.

Actively Shopping

Jarret Stoll (3.250) - 40 Points, 150 Hits, 150 SHTOI, 650 FOW
Luke Schenn (3.600) - 25 Points, 75 PIMS, 200 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 150 Blks
Kevin Klein (1.350) - 25 Points, 100 Hits, 250 SHTOI, 175 Blk
Keith Aulie (0.576, Waiver-Exempt) - Cracks the Lightning roster IMO - We'll see what happens stats wise


Available

Mike Ribeiro (5.000) - 60-70 Point C. Hits and PKs but not as strong in FOW (about 500 ish)
Tyler Bozak (1.500) - 40-50 Point C + 600 FOW + 50 SHTOI
Ryane Clowe (3.625) - 50 Points, 100 PIMS, 150 Hits
Dan Boyle (6.667) - 50 Points, 250 SOG, 150 SHTOI, 125 Blks


Not Looking to Move

Travis Zajac (3.888) - 50-60 Points, 100+ SHTOI, 700 FOW
Shane Doan (UFA) - 20 Goals, 50-60 Points. Hits, PIMs, some SHTOI. I want to see where he goes
Steve Downie (2.650) - 40 Points, 150 PIMS, 150 Hitss


Near Untouchable

Tomas Plekanec (5.000) - 55 Points, 250 SHTOI, 800 FOW.
Alexandre Burrows (2.000) - 50 Points, 100 PIMS, 150 Hits, 150 SHTOI
Wayne Simmonds (1.750) - 40 Points, 100 PIMS, 150 Hits
Cal Clutterbuck (1.400) - 40 Points, 75 PIMS, 300 Hits, 150 SHTOI
Niklas Kronwall (4.750) - 40 Points, 50 PIMS, 150 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 150 Blks
Mark Giordano (4.020) - 40 Points, 75 PIMS, 150 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 150 Blks
Alexander Edler (3.250) - 55 Points, 50 PIMS, 150 Hits, 150 SHTOI, 125 Blks
Travis Hamonic (0.875) - 35 Points, 100 PIMS, 150 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 150 Blks

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:14 pm
by Shep
You have Perron twice!

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:16 pm
by Robin Hood
Shep wroteCOLONYou have Perron twice!
Fucking Copy, Paste.

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:21 pm
by armandtanzarian
You win all periph categories no problem.

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:28 pm
by Robin Hood
mr. bruin wroteCOLONYou win all periph categories no problem.
You, Mike and Steve are just as good.

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:30 am
by Robin Hood
Bump.

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:59 pm
by anton
where in the name of christ are you getting some of these PIM predictions?

kronwall - 75: has never had more than 54
edler - 75: last 3 seasons; 34, 24, 40
giordano - 100: highest total in the NHL is 81

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:05 pm
by Robin Hood
anton wroteCOLONwhere in the name of christ are you getting some of these PIM predictions?

kronwall - 75: has never had more than 54
edler - 75: last 3 seasons; 34, 24, 40
giordano - 100: highest total in the NHL is 81
All fair. Fixed.

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:48 pm
by The BBKL Insider
SuperMario wroteCOLONPlayers are sorted by Position, Cap and Colour - with approximate valuation in terms of stats included.

*Note - The included valuations are how I value the player. It is possible you do not agree.

Actively Shopping

Jarret Stoll (3.250) - 40 Points, 150 Hits, 150 SHTOI, 650 FOW
David Perron (3.813) - 60 Point Winger, Some SHTOI
Luke Schenn (3.600) - 25 Points, 75 PIMS, 200 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 150 Blks
Kevin Klein (1.350) - 25 Points, 100 Hits, 250 SHTOI, 175 Blk


Available

Mike Ribeiro (5.000) - 60-70 Point C. Hits and PKs but not as strong in FOW (about 500 ish)
Ryane Clowe (3.625) - 50 Points, 100 PIMS, 150 Hits
Dan Boyle (6.667) - 50 Points, 250 SOG, 150 SHTOI, 125 Blks


Not Looking to Move

Travis Zajac (3.888) - 50-60 Points, 100+ SHTOI, 700 FOW
Shane Doan (UFA) - 20 Goals, 50-60 Points. Hits, PIMs, some SHTOI. I want to see where he goes
Steve Downie (2.650) - 40 Points, 150 PIMS, 150 Hitss


Near Untouchable

Tomas Plekanec (5.000) - 55 Points, 250 SHTOI, 800 FOW.
Alexandre Burrows (2.000) - 50 Points, 100 PIMS, 150 Hits, 150 SHTOI
Wayne Simmonds (1.750) - 40 Points, 100 PIMS, 150 Hits
Cal Clutterbuck (1.400) - 40 Points, 75 PIMS, 300 Hits, 150 SHTOI
Niklas Kronwall (4.750) - 40 Points, 50 PIMS, 150 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 150 Blks
Mark Giordano (4.020) - 40 Points, 75 PIMS, 150 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 150 Blks
Alexander Edler (3.250) - 55 Points, 50 PIMS, 150 Hits, 150 SHTOI, 125 Blks
Travis Hamonic (0.875) - 35 Points, 100 PIMS, 150 Hits, 200 SHTOI, 150 Blks

your actively shopping list is way over-estimated!

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:53 pm
by Robin Hood
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONyour actively shopping list is way over-estimated!
Don't agree. Unless there is a specific stat you can point to that none of those capable of producing/have never produced. Stoll is a 40 point guy IMO. Perron is a 60 point guy IMO. Schenn and Klein DO put up those numbers and IMO can again.

Like I said in the OP:
*Note - The included valuations are how I value the player. It is possible you do not agree.
Blatant mistakes aside, of course, like the ones Anton pointed out.

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:17 pm
by The BBKL Insider
I pointed out a troll


get over it

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:20 pm
by Robin Hood
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONI pointed out a troll


get over it
I'd stop trolling and start making that team of yours better ;)

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:25 pm
by The BBKL Insider
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONI pointed out a troll


get over it
I'd stop trolling and start making that team of yours better ;)
It's better than yours :o

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:27 pm
by Robin Hood
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONI pointed out a troll


get over it
I'd stop trolling and start making that team of yours better ;)
It's better than yours :o
:lol: good one ;).

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:56 pm
by hong57
if weber signs in philly (which is the case coz he wants out of nsh).. then schenn sure won't get 200 shtoi and esp if pronger comes back..

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:02 pm
by Robin Hood
hong57 wroteCOLONif weber signs in philly (which is the case coz he wants out of nsh).. then schenn sure won't get 200 shtoi and esp if pronger comes back..
There are a lot of IFs in that statement. And Schenn is going to get 200+ regardless. Minutes aren't divided randomly. Philly will give him a role. A big part of that role will be the PK. They didn't trade JvR for Schenn to play 5/6 d-man minutes.

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:14 pm
by hong57
SuperMario wroteCOLON
hong57 wroteCOLONif weber signs in philly (which is the case coz he wants out of nsh).. then schenn sure won't get 200 shtoi and esp if pronger comes back..
There are a lot of IFs in that statement. And Schenn is going to get 200+ regardless. Minutes aren't divided randomly. Philly will give him a role. A big part of that role will be the PK. They didn't trade JvR for Schenn to play 5/6 d-man minutes.
Leafs didn't move up and get Schenn to play him in... huh what role is it?

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:15 pm
by Robin Hood
hong57 wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
hong57 wroteCOLONif weber signs in philly (which is the case coz he wants out of nsh).. then schenn sure won't get 200 shtoi and esp if pronger comes back..
There are a lot of IFs in that statement. And Schenn is going to get 200+ regardless. Minutes aren't divided randomly. Philly will give him a role. A big part of that role will be the PK. They didn't trade JvR for Schenn to play 5/6 d-man minutes.
Leafs didn't move up and get Schenn to play him in... huh what role is it?
Would you like to bet on this? We can bet a 1st. As long as Schenn plays > 75 games, he will get more than 200 SHTOI.

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:26 pm
by hong57
SuperMario wroteCOLON
hong57 wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
hong57 wroteCOLONif weber signs in philly (which is the case coz he wants out of nsh).. then schenn sure won't get 200 shtoi and esp if pronger comes back..
There are a lot of IFs in that statement. And Schenn is going to get 200+ regardless. Minutes aren't divided randomly. Philly will give him a role. A big part of that role will be the PK. They didn't trade JvR for Schenn to play 5/6 d-man minutes.
Leafs didn't move up and get Schenn to play him in... huh what role is it?
Would you like to bet on this? We can bet a 1st. As long as Schenn plays > 75 games, he will get more than 200 SHTOI.
I won't get too emotional and bet a 1st just becoz i believe in something.. ya but i doubt he plays that much esp with the addition of weber

Re: Penguins Block - Availability and Valuation

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:28 pm
by Robin Hood
hong57 wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
hong57 wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
hong57 wroteCOLONif weber signs in philly (which is the case coz he wants out of nsh).. then schenn sure won't get 200 shtoi and esp if pronger comes back..
There are a lot of IFs in that statement. And Schenn is going to get 200+ regardless. Minutes aren't divided randomly. Philly will give him a role. A big part of that role will be the PK. They didn't trade JvR for Schenn to play 5/6 d-man minutes.
Leafs didn't move up and get Schenn to play him in... huh what role is it?
Would you like to bet on this? We can bet a 1st. As long as Schenn plays > 75 games, he will get more than 200 SHTOI.
I won't get too emotional and bet a 1st just becoz i believe in something.. ya but i doubt he plays that much esp with the addition of weber
Thank you for your time, BBKL analyst.