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Question

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:16 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Can we sign FA draftees now that the draft is over? There was a period of 2 weeks or so that we were allowed to last season IIRC.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:17 pm
by Scott
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONCan we sign FA draftees now that the draft is over? There was a period of 2 weeks or so that we were allowed to last season IIRC.
If they're entry draft eligible.. yes, as far as I know. Just nobody waiver draft eligible.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:18 pm
by Shep
I asked this question and was told I couldn't ..

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:40 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Shep wroteCOLONI asked this question and was told I couldn't ..
We did it last season, and it is permitted in the NHL, so I don't see why not.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:41 pm
by MSP4LYFE
I believe the rule is only one player per 24 hours though.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:45 pm
by Scott
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONI believe the rule is only one player per 24 hours though.
Yes, of course..

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:16 pm
by kyuss
rules were discussed, approved and posted by CC on the entry draft board:

http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3753

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:41 pm
by Nick
No window this year guys -> was decided that we don't get the info accurately anyways, so instead of a 24hour window after the entry draft those players that signed are eligible for the waiver draft (very logical). This was posted well in advance.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:43 pm
by MSP4LYFE
But we have the opportunity to sign them after the waiver draft, correct?

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:46 pm
by Nick
I'm not sure if that has been discussed,I wouldn't be opposed to a 24-hour window after the waiver draft. Lots of GM's end up not even using their waiver selections, so there needs to be some incentive for the GM's that do work (and have some interesting undrafted signee's- but remember, unsigned they are still eligible for entry draft).

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:49 pm
by kyuss
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONBut we have the opportunity to sign them after the waiver draft, correct?
if they are signed by NHL teams, yes.

However, if the player is still eligible for the next entry draft, he will be available as FA only till roster submission.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:58 pm
by kyuss
facey wroteCOLONI'm not sure if that has been discussed,I wouldn't be opposed to a 24-hour window after the waiver draft.
mmh.. not sure what you are referring to.

After the waiver draft, i thought NHL-signed players were all claimable with the only time limit (roster submission) applying to players that are still eligible for the next entry draft?

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:02 pm
by MSP4LYFE
NHL clubs have two weeks post draft to sign undrafted players to tryout contracts, or attain their rights. I don't understand why our rules should be any different.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:19 pm
by kyuss
7th rounders and Waiver draft 2nd and 3rd rounders already don't hold much value, such free period made them even more useless.
We are not the NHL, they don't have a Waiver draft so there goes the comparison.

We think this new system helps us making things clearer and easier to manage.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:20 pm
by MSP4LYFE
kyuss wroteCOLON7th rounders and Waiver draft 2nd and 3rd rounders already don't hold much value, such free period made them even more useless.
We are not the NHL, they don't have a Waiver draft so there goes the comparison.

We think this new system helps us making things clearer and easier to manage.
Using that logic, why do we even have a cap? I mean we have a waiver draft right, so there goes that comparison...

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:27 pm
by kyuss
the Waiver draft is strictly related with this CC decision though, the cap is not.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:09 pm
by MSP4LYFE
kyuss wroteCOLONthe Waiver draft is strictly related with this CC decision though, the cap is not.
The point, quite clearly, is that this league is predicated on authenticity to the NHL. The only reason we have a waiver draft is to strengthen weaker teams, an element that is necessary due to the lack of UFA. It is the exception, not the rule, and certainly not precedence to eliminate FA drafting moving forward.

Furthermore, I was in the CC longer than you, I don't need a reminder of the rules...

I repeat, the real NHL allows a two week period for teams to sign or invite non draftees to camp, and it is a system we have implemented in the past. There is no reason to discontinue this system, provided it occurs post dispersal draft.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:18 pm
by kyuss
not sure where i provided a reminder of the rules that were in place when you were a CC member.

As for the system, from the end of the Waiver draft onward there will be a wide window to sign bbkl-FA.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:30 pm
by MSP4LYFE
kyuss wroteCOLONnot sure where i provided a reminder of the rules that were in place when you were a CC member.
Rules was the wrong choice of word, I was referencing the comment that the waiver draft is a CC decision.

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PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:56 pm
by Scott
We should abolish the waiver draft anyone.. it's gay.