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Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:21 pm
by Nick
Andy MacDonald 58gp, 349 fot ,4th on team*,

349/1,162 = .30034


Centre according to a) & c)
a) players that the previous season were in the top 4 of their (final) team will be C at the start of our next season*.
b) players that had 470 or more FOT with their final team will still be C even if out of the top 4.
c) players out of the top 4 and below the 470 threshold will still be C if their "FOR" is more than 0.3 in the last team they played for.

But he does qualify for the early update list during games 26-29.

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:25 pm
by Lee
My apologies, not sure how I got .283..

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:19 pm
by Shoalzie
CBS had re-assigned Nik Antropov to LW...I'm requesting that he's put back to C based on our classification. Thanks!

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:11 pm
by Nick
Shoalzie wroteCOLONCBS had re-assigned Nik Antropov to LW...I'm requesting that he's put back to C based on our classification. Thanks!

Just for ease - would you mind posting the # for us.

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:22 pm
by Shoalzie
Number?

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:25 pm
by kyuss
Shoalzie wroteCOLONNumber?
FOR (faceoff ratio)

anyway, Antropov is on the list, so unless i made a mistake he is gonna be a C.

We still have to re-list on CBS a lot of players that need their position to be updated, Antropov is no different from the others ;)

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:32 am
by armandtanzarian
Darrol Powe is listed as a C for some reason on CBS? Can this be corrected. He is not a center anywhere and has never been.

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:10 am
by kyuss
mr. bruin wroteCOLONDarrol Powe is listed as a C for some reason on CBS? Can this be corrected. He is not a center anywhere and has never been.
Kyle, Powe is currently wrongly listed on CBS like many other players are and will be until we update their positions on CBS accordingly with our BBKL list of centers.

Powe is not on the list, so he will not remain a C on CBS without the need of request.

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:12 am
by Shep
When are we doing that positional update?

Re: Provisional list of BBKL centers

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:47 am
by kyuss
Shep wroteCOLONWhen are we doing that positional update?
i was/am going to start a CC thread about that.

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:41 pm
by Tony
CBS duals that can only be used as C :

C.Adams
What a bunch of crap ...

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:03 pm
by Nick
Claude Giroux -> Can only be used as a C.

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:40 pm
by Monk
pierre marc bouchard - is currently dually eligible for rw and c, however he took 43 fo's last year and was about 10th on the team in total faceoffs taken, his dual eligibility should be taken off

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:57 pm
by MSP4LYFE
^ PMB has never been a center in the NHL, he should, and always should have been a LW.

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:10 am
by kyuss
MadarameIkakku83 wroteCOLONpierre marc bouchard - is currently dually eligible for rw and c, however he took 43 fo's last year and was about 10th on the team in total faceoffs taken, his dual eligibility should be taken off
Luke, as reported from here http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4903&start=20#p63978 onward, unfotunately CBS won't let us to take away some duals.

That doesn't affect the way we list players. Bouchard is obviously a W under our criteria, and you'll be allowed to use him as a W only.

I am asking to report the remaining duals just to list them and make it easier to prevent/track eventual mistakes.

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:58 am
by kyuss
I've added a list for the reported/known CBSduals at the bottom of the Centers list:
http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3669


Please keep in mind the following things:

- current positions should be correct, as the ones that show up in the roster grid page: http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/teams/grid
hence, if in the last week you didn't modify your players' position through the mistaken dual eligibility provided by CBS, then you can just leave everything as it is;

- if you have any doubts about the correct position of a CBSdual, you can check the aforementioned list at the bottom of this page http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3669 to check which is the only position you can use that player at.

- if you have any doubts about the correct position of a CBSdual and he doesn't appear in the aforementioned list (cause you failed to report about that player), you can check the list of BBKL centers in the same post. If the player is a veteran and doesn't appear on that list, then he has to be used as a winger. If instead the CBSdual player didn't play 26G and never reached 40GP in one season (should be a very rare occurrence, as i don't remember any 'rookie' that i couldn't fix on CBS), then you have to check his nhl.com draft listing (e.g. http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftsearch.htm? ... 10&round=1 for Taylor Hall)

Obviously, moving forward you're responsible for using CBSduals in the proper BBKL position.
Whenever that would not happen, your lineup would be considered illegal and the pertinent sanctions applied.


GMs still have the chance to point out any players who they think were assigned mistaken positions accordingly with our criteria. However, their applications will only be considered if equipped with:
- FOR for veteran players
- nhl.com draft listing page for players that still do not meet our GP requirements (less than 26GP last season and never 40GP in any previous season)

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:18 pm
by Scott
Dana Tyrell from C->W

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:03 am
by kyuss
The Devil wroteCOLONDana Tyrell from C->W
?

he has already been set as W on CBS.

CBS still allows the C too, but that doesn't matter for us; he is also listed at the bottom here:
http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3669

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:05 am
by kimmer
FYI, Daymond Langkow traded to Phoenix. Also I think he should have W eligibility yes?

Re: List of BBKLcenters & CBSduals

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:09 am
by Lee
Do the work, figure it out, post the numbers.

a) players that the previous season were in the top 4 of their (final) team will be C at the start of our next season*.
b) players that had 470 or more FOT with their final team will still be C even if out of the top 4.
c) players out of the top 4 and below the 470 threshold will still be C if their "FOR" is more than 0.3 in the last team they played for.

FOR = FaceOff Ratio = "FOT/icetime"
you get regular season FOT and icetime ("time on ice") from nhl.com, and to make things simpler the latter gets rounded down like this: 341:15 -> 341 , 1627:28 -> 1627 , 700:49-> 700.5.