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Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:51 pm
by kimmer
Mike wroteCOLONList of BBKL centres (20+ games) at season's end:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... web#gid=10
following players are missing:

BURISH, ADAM - 0.52 FOR
LECAVALIER, VINCENT - 0.42 FOR
BRIERE, DANIEL - 0.40 FOR

in our case, if 2014-2015 cut off ratio is 0.45, I have the right to start Vinny + Briere on wing starting this season?
P.S. still doesn't explain Burish not being there

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:33 am
by kimmer
kimmer wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLONList of BBKL centres (20+ games) at season's end:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... web#gid=10
following players are missing:

BURISH, ADAM - 0.52 FOR
LECAVALIER, VINCENT - 0.42 FOR
BRIERE, DANIEL - 0.40 FOR

in our case, if 2014-2015 cut off ratio is 0.45, I have the right to start Vinny + Briere on wing starting this season?
P.S. still doesn't explain Burish not being there

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:08 pm
by Tony
kimmer wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLONList of BBKL centres (20+ games) at season's end:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... web#gid=10
following players are missing:

BURISH, ADAM - 0.52 FOR
LECAVALIER, VINCENT - 0.42 FOR
BRIERE, DANIEL - 0.40 FOR

in our case, if 2014-2015 cut off ratio is 0.45, I have the right to start Vinny + Briere on wing starting this season?
P.S. still doesn't explain Burish not being there

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:27 pm
by bills09
Tony wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLON
Mike wroteCOLONList of BBKL centres (20+ games) at season's end:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... web#gid=10
following players are missing:

BURISH, ADAM - 0.52 FOR
LECAVALIER, VINCENT - 0.42 FOR
BRIERE, DANIEL - 0.40 FOR

in our case, if 2014-2015 cut off ratio is 0.45, I have the right to start Vinny + Briere on wing starting this season?
P.S. still doesn't explain Burish not being there

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:37 am
by kimmer
wow goddamned trolls LOL

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:33 am
by Fraser
Want to make sure I understand. So looking at a player like Strome on my team, who will most likely start and play next season as a winger but has only been a center in the past. Does this mean that no matter what he will be considered a center all next season? Or is there a midseason date where a re-evaluation process takes place?

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:52 am
by kimmer
Fraser wroteCOLONWant to make sure I understand. So looking at a player like Strome on my team, who will most likely start and play next season as a winger but has only been a center in the past. Does this mean that no matter what he will be considered a center all next season? Or is there a midseason date where a re-evaluation process takes place?
As per our FOR calculation, Strome's numbers are as follows:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm? ... =timeOnIce#

FOT/TOI = 374 FOT/562 TOI
= 0.67 FOR

0.67 > 0.45 therefore, Strome is a CENTRE headin into this year

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:06 am
by Fraser
And he would be locked in as a C for the entire year?

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:12 am
by kimmer
Fraser wroteCOLONAnd he would be locked in as a C for the entire year?
unless he ends up in a situation where his FOR drops dramatically starting this season ie. he stops taking draws almost entirely, but with consistent ice time, and his early 23-25 game FOR review becomes LESS than 0.45, then u have a choice of switching him to a winger position or keep him at centre as per ur discretion

but yes, he would 100% start at C starting October

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:30 am
by kimmer
btw these numbers are all speculations... I'm sorta lazy to go check and see if CC actually set on the numbers this yr yet.... I kno last yr it was like 26 game past for early review and cut off FOR for C/W was 0.35 or something...

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:41 am
by Fraser
Got it. Thanks.

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:44 pm
by bills09
We have a mid season review on centers

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:45 am
by kyuss
Two updates actually.

Hopefully i'll be able to get back on this later this week.

Some OT recent events:
I left for a week of vacation and forgot to notify in the dedicated thread. I thought it was not a problem as i was going to have web access through my mobile.
Things didn't go exactly as expected.
On the 2nd and last day on the seaside, my mobile was stolen.
Moved on the mountains, it started raining all the time and my gf mobile lost connection save for some moments .
I got a new mobile but the idiots at my provider sent the new card to the wrong address.
The night before coming back home i had a car accident hitting a small deer. Car not working anymore. Because of festivities, only tomorrow i should be able to have someone working on it... can't come back until it is at least partiakly repaired.

Great fucking Summer!

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:02 am
by Fraser
^Figured you had just been playing hardball this entire time.

"Damn he didn't respond to that message either, guess I offended him"

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:22 am
by kimmer
LOL fraser!

Nobody cares here if miks offended lol

Anyway that sucks mik!

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:21 am
by kyuss
Fraser wroteCOLON^Figured you had just been playing hardball this entire time.

"Damn he didn't respond to that message either, guess I offended him"
Ahah.. actually, i didn't 'work' hard enough to reply , but "offended" would be too harsh of a word.. i don't get offended by trade offers that easily... :)

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:30 am
by Shoalzie
Ryan White is listed as W but should be a C (0.77 FOR)
Quinton Howden is listed as C but should be a W (0.04 FOR)

I have two dual-eligible NHL forwards (C,W):
Sam Bennett
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:48 am
by kyuss
thx Scott, all fixed now.

Bellemare brought up a brand new situation:
never played in the NHL, never drafted (which would be the following source for his starting position), and dual on Fantrax (which would be the default position for those undrafted) whereas we do not allow duals.

So I did what we do for those listed C/W on nhl.com draft lists: --> W as starting position

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:52 am
by Shoalzie
That's fine. He's projected as the 4th line center for the Flyers so either position isn't a big deal. It'll sort itself out during the season. I have only 3 active centers after Horcoff and Colborne switched...Bellemare will be my 4th line center.

Re: BBKL policy for Centers and Wingers

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:00 am
by dave1959
Dubinsky is my only C/W. Needs to be changed to C.

Thanks