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Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:50 pm
by KapG
Nick wroteCOLONI like BBKL Flip. People get stuck at low hit/pim #, 2 categories i'd happily drop in place for more reliable scoring.
and some people dont pay enough attention to those hit/pim cats.

It's all about a good balance..

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:04 pm
by Shep
Brodziak for Armstrong and Halpern

GG.

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:48 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Shep wroteCOLONBrodziak for Armstrong and Halpern

GG.

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?
probably the best offer i've seen on here so far

i'd probably take it

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:52 pm
by Robin Hood
Shep wroteCOLONBrodziak for Armstrong and Halpern

GG.

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?
No thank you.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:17 pm
by kimmer
Shep wroteCOLONBrodziak for Armstrong and Halpern

GG.

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?
Is that really this year's to date scoring? God damn Brodziak's gotten horrible

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:30 pm
by Robin Hood
gooker wroteCOLON
Shep wroteCOLONBrodziak for Armstrong and Halpern

GG.

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?
Is that really this year's to date scoring? God damn Brodziak's gotten horrible
So what you're saying is that you haven't seen 1 MIN game this year.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:36 pm
by kimmer
lol please don't pull that on me you are such a joker

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:41 pm
by Robin Hood
gooker wroteCOLONlol please don't pull that on me you are such a joker
You think you're the only one who can troll around here? haha.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:46 pm
by Shep
SuperMario wroteCOLON
gooker wroteCOLON
Shep wroteCOLONBrodziak for Armstrong and Halpern

GG.

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?
Is that really this year's to date scoring? God damn Brodziak's gotten horrible
So what you're saying is that you haven't seen 1 MIN game this year.
Stats trump all.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:07 am
by Robin Hood
Shep wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
gooker wroteCOLON
Shep wroteCOLONBrodziak for Armstrong and Halpern

GG.

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?
Is that really this year's to date scoring? God damn Brodziak's gotten horrible
So what you're saying is that you haven't seen 1 MIN game this year.
Stats trump all.
Large sample sizes trump streaks (good or bad).

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:19 am
by Shep
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Shep wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
gooker wroteCOLON
Shep wroteCOLONBrodziak for Armstrong and Halpern

GG.

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... :p/scoring?
Is that really this year's to date scoring? God damn Brodziak's gotten horrible
So what you're saying is that you haven't seen 1 MIN game this year.
Stats trump all.
Large sample sizes trump streaks (good or bad).
Going back 3 years still looks good to me.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:34 am
by Robin Hood
Shep wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Shep wroteCOLON Stats trump all.
Large sample sizes trump streaks (good or bad).
Going back 3 years still looks good to me.
You should really stick with Armstrong and Halpern then. Things that put the conversation into context don't matter obviously. i.e. future performance vs past performance, prime vs past prime, trade value vs stat value (which by the way, Brodziak is still the best player in)

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:34 am
by Shep
I looked at past as I said by looking at the BBKL stats for the past 3 years. Where did I deny Brodziak was the best of the 3? Why would I trade 2 players for somebody that is worse?

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:43 am
by kimmer
Brodziak still gets premium minutes on ice, but if he ain't contributing to tha sheet this nigga valueless

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:03 am
by Robin Hood
Shep wroteCOLONI looked at past as I said by looking at the BBKL stats for the past 3 years. Where did I deny Brodziak was the best of the 3? Why would I trade 2 players for somebody that is worse?
Yea - I probably got a little too annoyed there lol.

I get it - Brodziak has had a pretty slow start. Has not produced offensively yet as much as he did last year. But he's 28, he's the clear cut #2 C in MIN and it's not even close in that regard. He get 2 minutes of SHTOI per game, on pace for about 700 FOW in an 82 game season. Even if he produces at a 30 point pace which he easily can as his minutes are going to stay the same - he is a SICK bbkler.

And the number of bbkl teams rolling around with Cs who put up FOW at a pace of 500 in an 82 game season (or even only 3 Cs because they can't find 4/5 - and one of the 3 isn't even a true C) is retarded. It is truly difficult to find 700+ FOW Cs. Nick has 4 of them, his 5th is Stamkos. Me, Mike, Kyle, Billy, Steve have a bunch.

With so few teams having such a huge concentration of the 700+ FOW Cs, why a trade block for Brodziak isn't taken seriously by the remaining GMs is crazy. Paul coming in with Brodziak + Giordano for Stajan + Filp lol as if Gio/Brodziak are scrubs that need to be upgraded to Filp (not singling you out Paul, just an example lol). Just insane to me.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:30 am
by Shep
Because about 20 teams, me included, have punted FOW due to the fact that those FOW studs are spread around 5-6 teams. There's no point in trying to compete with them.

Also, considering Brodziak has broken 700 FOW once and is on pace for less than that this season, I'm in no rush to trade studs for a 2-trick pony.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:40 am
by Robin Hood
Shep wroteCOLONBecause about 20 teams, me included, have punted FOW due to the fact that those FOW studs are spread around 5-6 teams. There's no point in trying to compete with them.

Also, considering Brodziak has broken 700 FOW once and is on pace for less than that this season, I'm in no rush to trade studs for a 2-trick pony.
Punting FOW or any category is silly. starting any week down 0-1-0 is suicide as so many playoff matchups end 6-7-3, 8-7-1, 8-6-2 etc. Also brodziak is on pace for about 660 this season. That's Datsyuk/Mikko FOW territory - 2 of the FOW studss you're talking about.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:44 am
by KapG
Shep wroteCOLONBecause about 20 teams, me included, have punted FOW due to the fact that those FOW studs are spread around 5-6 teams. There's no point in trying to compete with them.

Also, considering Brodziak has broken 700 FOW once and is on pace for less than that this season, I'm in no rush to trade studs for a 2-trick pony.
Shep and I are on the same page with regards to this...It's the one stat cat I have essentially just given up on. At least to the top end teams.

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:53 am
by armandtanzarian
KapG wroteCOLON
Shep wroteCOLONBecause about 20 teams, me included, have punted FOW due to the fact that those FOW studs are spread around 5-6 teams. There's no point in trying to compete with them.

Also, considering Brodziak has broken 700 FOW once and is on pace for less than that this season, I'm in no rush to trade studs for a 2-trick pony.
Shep and I are on the same page with regards to this...It's the one stat cat I have essentially just given up on. At least to the top end teams.
Basically no point when there are teams like TB and TOR, if you are thinking in the big picture and a what-if situation. I see nothing wrong with conceding that stat. It would be cool if we could start 5 more Wingers instead of centers, tbh. If you want to go after C's and get that category, power to you but if you want to concede that and roll with all Wingers, high five!

Re: MAN UP! BIG NAME PENGUINS BLOCK

PostedCOLON Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:54 am
by Robin Hood
Disagree strongly. I repeat: you cannot start any week automatically down 0-1-0. There is no hope in the playoffs if you do that. Teams should be making trades to be competitive in that cat.