Buds Board Keepers League

Shep wroteCOLONIt's a joke that guys like Kuznetsov, Klingberg and Panarin are in the minors, regardless of the reason. That alone is enough for me to support some sort of change.

I agree that people that build depth, draft, and have an insanely good team with an incredible prospect system need to be rewarded, but stuff like this where 2 of the top 10 players in points in the NHL are sitting in the minors, is an absolute joke.

Mike wroteCOLONRegardless of any proposed rule changes the best GMs will accrue the most value on their teams. Change waiver eligibility? They'll get similar players that are a bit younger. Force a cap on gp in the minors? They'll turn those players into first rounders.

We all have the same tools at our disposal to build our teams, no matter what happens some will do it well and some won't. All you'll do is shift the worth of certain assets -- in this case lowering the value of young players league wide, including those on bad teams.

The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONCould you imagine if shiv wins the west and has to forfeit an active player because he's a top team. That would leave him with 15 active NHLers

Matthew wroteCOLON

The BBKL Insider wroteCOLONCould you imagine if shiv wins the west and has to forfeit an active player because he's a top team. That would leave him with 15 active NHLers

No one is talking about top teams forfieting players or giving them away for free. This is about a team like mik converting some of the value he has in his current 45? Nhlers into A: better nhlers B: draft picks C: prospects.

tyler wroteCOLONThere is a few GM's being included as the "superior GM with great asset management". Only a small percent of those superior GM's are actually that - a few got their pockets lined with assets/picks by holding goalies over peoples heads in the early days of this league. As well as others scraped some shitty GM's in the first two seasons as the rotating door of GM's kept turning.

It is what it is. So leave it as is. The league is still strong, very alive/healthy.

/rant.

kyuss wroteCOLON

Fraser wroteCOLONAlso I should clarify that what I'm suggesting doesn't necessarily hurt the wealth of these teams on top. Rather I just think from a competitive standpoint in the league we shouldn't have a structure that allows a large amount of productive players to sit in the minors contributing nothing

Fraser wroteCOLONAppreciate the input Chris. And I think you guys are spot on when saying that things have been trending in a better direction and with time it will only improve. But for me when looking at this single year in isolation, and sorry to single a team out here but when I see players like Kuznetsov, Panarin and Klingberg all sitting in the minors, it says to me that we have a problem.

there will be more to add, but just wanted to start pointing out a couple of things.

1. What's happening to me this season is no different than what happened in Detroit in real life (nhl) over the past years. You think Nyquist would have not been more productive than Cleary & c when he was dominating the AHL? yet they decided to keep him down for yrs, cause otherwise they had to throw away veterans they didn't want to lose.
In our NHL representation with BBKL, keeping Klingberg/Panarin down is no different, the fact he is producing in the NHL so he should be up is like saying an NHL team should be forced to keep up a player who is dominating the AHL.
The fact in terms of NHL games played by our players we have to witness the NHL GMs decisions instead of making our own decisions (which for example affects how long a player remains waiver exempt) is problematic enough without forcing BBKL GMs to keep players up just because NHL GMs decides so, even when they still are waiver exempts by BBKL (restricted) standards.

2. A good reason why Kuz, Panarin & Klingberg are in the minors is other GMs with cap room don't feel like paying decent value for veterans. If Selanne played till 44, the way Datsyuk plays the game it is hard to imagine he stops being effective before 40, yet he is treated like he was someone who can't play hockey anymore and ready to retire.
Heck, even Plekanec didn't have weak teams with cap room interested, and in fact ended up to another contender for cheap..
so this is a case of hoarding resulting from others' behaviour more than willingness: obviously I'd rather dress those 3 players than not.

lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONSome teams prefer top heavy NHL rosters and others prefer a strong overall organizational method, neither should be penalize or have what they worked for taken away from them.