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Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:31 pm
by CasperX22
Shoalzie wroteCOLONThe difference of a game or two per week required isn't going to lead to a tanking epidemic.
2 games a week adds up over time. You guys wanna learn the hard way? Well so be it. Can't wait for a handful of teams to be straddling 850 next year.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:34 pm
by Arian The Insider
Shoalzie wroteCOLONThe difference of a game or two per week required isn't going to lead to a tanking epidemic.
Exactly.. and now there's also no excuse for missing GP.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:50 pm
by Matthew
Jesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:11 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLONJesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.
How did you come up within that math? Lol!

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:23 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONJesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.
How did you come up within that math? Lol!
We had 1100 for the full NHL regular season at 82 games. On March 5th when our BBKL regular season finished we had played 78.6% of the NHL games.

Since we are moving from including BBKL playoffs to just BBKL regular season we multiplied .786 * 1100 = 864gp

So 864 gp would be the exact equivalent to 1100 games as a ratio when not including the BBKL playoffs.

CC decided to make it a clean 850 games, meaning we subtracted 14 games.

14/21 =.66 games per week easier.

It is 14 games easier over the entire season than previously.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:29 pm
by timwebb1212
foofnik wroteCOLONThe lower the number the shittier the roster and thus the longer and harder for that team to ever be competitive.
Where is the logic here? How does acquiring a 32 year-old winger who barely gets on the stat sheet now and will be out of the NHL in 2 years help me be competitive sooner? Wouldn't I be better off with the prospects I gave up to get him?

And ignoring all that logic that should be self-evident, why do other GMs get to tell me what will make my team competitive sooner?

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:31 pm
by timwebb1212
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONJesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.
How did you come up within that math? Lol!
We had 1100 for the full NHL regular season at 82 games. On March 5th when our BBKL regular season finished we had played 78.6% of the NHL games.

Since we are moving from including BBKL playoffs to just BBKL regular season we multiplied .786 * 1100 = 864gp

So 864 gp would be the exact equivalent to 1100 games as a ratio when not including the BBKL playoffs.

CC decided to make it a clean 850 games, meaning we subtracted 14 games.

14/21 =.66 games per week easier.

It is 14 games easier over the entire season than previously.
@CasperX22 owned

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:32 pm
by Matthew
I don't care what other gms do to their teams. But it's important to get games played so as not to make the standings of the playoffs teams too out of whack. If you only dress 9 skaters against a team 9th in his conference, that's hardly fair to the 8th place team.

But having 7 teams miss gp sounds a bit ridiculous too. Glad I'm not in that league.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:30 pm
by CasperX22
timwebb1212 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONJesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.
How did you come up within that math? Lol!
We had 1100 for the full NHL regular season at 82 games. On March 5th when our BBKL regular season finished we had played 78.6% of the NHL games.

Since we are moving from including BBKL playoffs to just BBKL regular season we multiplied .786 * 1100 = 864gp

So 864 gp would be the exact equivalent to 1100 games as a ratio when not including the BBKL playoffs.

CC decided to make it a clean 850 games, meaning we subtracted 14 games.

14/21 =.66 games per week easier.

It is 14 games easier over the entire season than previously.
@CasperX22 owned
Are you 12 now?

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:42 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONJesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.
How did you come up within that math? Lol!
We had 1100 for the full NHL regular season at 82 games. On March 5th when our BBKL regular season finished we had played 78.6% of the NHL games.

Since we are moving from including BBKL playoffs to just BBKL regular season we multiplied .786 * 1100 = 864gp

So 864 gp would be the exact equivalent to 1100 games as a ratio when not including the BBKL playoffs.

CC decided to make it a clean 850 games, meaning we subtracted 14 games.

14/21 =.66 games per week easier.

It is 14 games easier over the entire season than previously.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to take an average of the past 5 seasons rather than using this Season? Not sure it would have made much of a difference, but I would have to think with the condensed schedule there would be some variation in this seasons numbers.

Regardless, over a 21 week span you will need to average approx 40.5 skater gp a week at 850 whereas over a 26 week span you would need to average just under 42.5 skater gp at 1100. I am going to be extremely curious to see if anyone that made 850 at 21 weeks doesn't make 1100 at 26.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:45 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLONI don't care what other gms do to their teams. But it's important to get games played so as not to make the standings of the playoffs teams too out of whack. If you only dress 9 skaters against a team 9th in his conference, that's hardly fair to the 8th place team.

But having 7 teams miss gp sounds a bit ridiculous too. Glad I'm not in that league.
As previously stated, only 5 teams missed the previous season with a significantly higher gp number. The moral of the story is that every time you lower the threshold team will further deteriorate their rosters to race to the bottom which is exactly what happened. Some guys blatantly tanked and miscalculated how far the could tear it down to reach the number.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:48 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONJesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.
How did you come up within that math? Lol!
We had 1100 for the full NHL regular season at 82 games. On March 5th when our BBKL regular season finished we had played 78.6% of the NHL games.

Since we are moving from including BBKL playoffs to just BBKL regular season we multiplied .786 * 1100 = 864gp

So 864 gp would be the exact equivalent to 1100 games as a ratio when not including the BBKL playoffs.

CC decided to make it a clean 850 games, meaning we subtracted 14 games.

14/21 =.66 games per week easier.

It is 14 games easier over the entire season than previously.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to take an average of the past 5 seasons rather than using this Season? Not sure it would have made much of a difference, but I would have to think with the condensed schedule there would be some variation in this seasons numbers.

Regardless, over a 21 week span you will need to average approx 40.5 skater gp a week at 850 whereas over a 26 week span you would need to average just under 42.5 skater gp at 1100
. I am going to be extremely curious to see if anyone that made 850 at 21 weeks doesn't make 1100 at 26.
No this is wrong

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:52 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONJesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.
How did you come up within that math? Lol!
We had 1100 for the full NHL regular season at 82 games. On March 5th when our BBKL regular season finished we had played 78.6% of the NHL games.

Since we are moving from including BBKL playoffs to just BBKL regular season we multiplied .786 * 1100 = 864gp

So 864 gp would be the exact equivalent to 1100 games as a ratio when not including the BBKL playoffs.

CC decided to make it a clean 850 games, meaning we subtracted 14 games.

14/21 =.66 games per week easier.

It is 14 games easier over the entire season than previously.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to take an average of the past 5 seasons rather than using this Season? Not sure it would have made much of a difference, but I would have to think with the condensed schedule there would be some variation in this seasons numbers.

Regardless, over a 21 week span you will need to average approx 40.5 skater gp a week at 850 whereas over a 26 week span you would need to average just under 42.5 skater gp at 1100
. I am going to be extremely curious to see if anyone that made 850 at 21 weeks doesn't make 1100 at 26.
No this is wrong
Explain it then.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:03 am
by CasperX22
Also, just doing some quick math looks like a virtual certainty that 3 teams will miss this season.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:08 am
by CasperX22
Will certainly be close.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:47 am
by Shoalzie
Since our trade deadline is usually in the final week of the regular season...any team flirting with not reaching the 850 number will have to make moves much sooner.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:01 am
by foofnik
CasperX22 wroteCOLONThe moral of the story is that every time you lower the threshold team will further deteriorate their rosters to race to the bottom which is exactly what happened. Some guys blatantly tanked and miscalculated how far the could tear it down to reach the number.
this

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:39 am
by Lee
look at Arizona in the nhl. some great nhlers like Chris pronger , Marc savard etc.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:45 am
by Shoalzie
If a team wants to intentionally get worse, that's on them. If you waste your time in the league being a perennial bottom-feeder, just do it within the rules. This 850 number is the lowest it'll go. It might go up if we find that it's too easy. We've changed rules when it was necessary.

I'll speak to my own situation. I was in or near last place for several years and I got sick of it. Pride kicks in at some point and you get tired of getting embarrassed.

To me, it's worth it to make larger moves to improve your team rather than just throw away picks or prospects to acquire guys just for GP and hope you win the lottery and find a franchise player. Even then, one player won't make your team that much better. You need several players to be competitive in this league.

Re: Announcement thread discussion

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:46 am
by koomzzz
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLON
Matthew wroteCOLONJesus. The difference between 1100 and 850 isn't 2 games per week. It's .75 games per week.
How did you come up within that math? Lol!
We had 1100 for the full NHL regular season at 82 games. On March 5th when our BBKL regular season finished we had played 78.6% of the NHL games.

Since we are moving from including BBKL playoffs to just BBKL regular season we multiplied .786 * 1100 = 864gp

So 864 gp would be the exact equivalent to 1100 games as a ratio when not including the BBKL playoffs.

CC decided to make it a clean 850 games, meaning we subtracted 14 games.

14/21 =.66 games per week easier.

It is 14 games easier over the entire season than previously.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to take an average of the past 5 seasons rather than using this Season? Not sure it would have made much of a difference, but I would have to think with the condensed schedule there would be some variation in this seasons numbers.

Regardless, over a 21 week span you will need to average approx 40.5 skater gp a week at 850 whereas over a 26 week span you would need to average just under 42.5 skater gp at 1100
. I am going to be extremely curious to see if anyone that made 850 at 21 weeks doesn't make 1100 at 26.
No this is wrong
If you're gonna use math to back up yourself, actually do the math before you tell someone else that there's is wrong.

850/21 = 40.47

1100/25 = 44 but since finals are 2 weeks, lets split that up into weekly segments

1100/26 = 42.3