Re: NHL Transactions - Injuries and More Injuries
PostedCOLON Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:15 pm
I'm not denying Dean (D-Lo) signed Brayden to contract that could pay Brayden 3.11M, with a large portion of that being extremely unlikely, and it was designed to be that way (easily avoidable) in the first two seasons (actually for all 3). I'm saying I don't believe that is a unique contract situation; I believe a whole range of methods are used during the writing of bonuses in regards to how difficult they are to achieve. Finding out specific details on many contracts is tough, but do you assume all those 3.75M ELC's were getting that much? It really was a cap hit of a 900k contract first year (cushion in place for he 850k bonuses - not that he was that hard of a hit on the kings), 900k contract his year (cushion + no "B" -edit 1.75k no cushion-), and sounds like another 1.75M third year -
bah phone and work stuff keep getting in the way!
Just a reminder that the actual NHL cap is not a starting total amount (how we calculate ours here in the BBKL), and I think that number breakdown above and in the TSN sources is simplifying how the actual NHL Club salary is calculated. The cap is calculated for the year starting on July 1st with a 184 day season - so each teams cap is a daily changing amount... it's based on being active, injured reserve or injured non-roster 5pm New York time (Page 357 for full-time player reference). So they start with 64.3Million to spend on a year, and not X million under the cap. Day 1 they spend the cap hit of the active & injured players divided by 184. From what I've read it would be entirely possible to spend more then half the cap in less then half the GP/days, as long as you don't spend (in averaged SPCs) over 64.3M over the 184 days.
what i mean by that, that the daily cap spent needs to average .349M, but there is nothing stopping a team (aside from actual practice and details of how to do it) from spending 0.5M for 92 days, as long as for the other 92 days they spend .198 --> quickly you can see how complicated that becomes and when you add in injuries+replacements+retroactive and call-ups, i know it all seems to be 'around' the topic - but what I'm trying to show here is that I have spent time thinking about this (and not one dimensionally
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If i recall correctly the NHLPA extended the CBA until 2012, meaning the bonus cushion is still in effect. As set out in article 50.5 (pg 198) (h) teams are allowed to exceed the salary cap by 7.5% of the ceiling in individual "A", "B" (and w/e the 35+ GP bonuses are called) bonuses. - thinking while writing here -> not the case for this years extension (page 217) (h). iii .C This means Brayden's cap-hit this year could potentially have been 3.11 had he met all conditions. Think Evander is actually costing the thrashers/jets 3.1M ? It's pure speculation because we don't know the contract details (bonuses in specific) but I'd be extremely shocked. And would wager that more then a few (not most, but many) of the 2m+ ELC's are similarly difficult to achieve, and similarly easy to be removed for the cap calculations.
If you don't want to read skip to here ->->
In short - thinking any of the ELC's impact the cap as much as they read as, or do in the BBKL is a fallacy IMO - and one I've brought up in the CC more then once (that we shouldn't count ELC contract bonuses, we're assuming they are met, when I'd wager they were not, and yet we don't count the "B" awards which we know were met). How simple do you think contract negotiations are? or how simple GMs/Agents are? These details are why contracts are done by professionals, and not fans saying "just sign him to 3.75M and be done with it" in regards to each 1st overall pick (or that years equivalent max). These ELC deals are easily the most complicated to work out in terms of fine print.
. Which sounds like my understanding of "B" bonuses....what that 25min/game for 82 games actually sounds like to me is #1 in TOI for forwards, which is what the requirement is in each year since the lockout.but to qualify he would have to have an All-Star season, finish among the league's point leaders and win a major award.
bah phone and work stuff keep getting in the way!
Just a reminder that the actual NHL cap is not a starting total amount (how we calculate ours here in the BBKL), and I think that number breakdown above and in the TSN sources is simplifying how the actual NHL Club salary is calculated. The cap is calculated for the year starting on July 1st with a 184 day season - so each teams cap is a daily changing amount... it's based on being active, injured reserve or injured non-roster 5pm New York time (Page 357 for full-time player reference). So they start with 64.3Million to spend on a year, and not X million under the cap. Day 1 they spend the cap hit of the active & injured players divided by 184. From what I've read it would be entirely possible to spend more then half the cap in less then half the GP/days, as long as you don't spend (in averaged SPCs) over 64.3M over the 184 days.
what i mean by that, that the daily cap spent needs to average .349M, but there is nothing stopping a team (aside from actual practice and details of how to do it) from spending 0.5M for 92 days, as long as for the other 92 days they spend .198 --> quickly you can see how complicated that becomes and when you add in injuries+replacements+retroactive and call-ups, i know it all seems to be 'around' the topic - but what I'm trying to show here is that I have spent time thinking about this (and not one dimensionally
)If i recall correctly the NHLPA extended the CBA until 2012, meaning the bonus cushion is still in effect. As set out in article 50.5 (pg 198) (h) teams are allowed to exceed the salary cap by 7.5% of the ceiling in individual "A", "B" (and w/e the 35+ GP bonuses are called) bonuses. - thinking while writing here -> not the case for this years extension (page 217) (h). iii .C This means Brayden's cap-hit this year could potentially have been 3.11 had he met all conditions. Think Evander is actually costing the thrashers/jets 3.1M ? It's pure speculation because we don't know the contract details (bonuses in specific) but I'd be extremely shocked. And would wager that more then a few (not most, but many) of the 2m+ ELC's are similarly difficult to achieve, and similarly easy to be removed for the cap calculations.
If you don't want to read skip to here ->->
In short - thinking any of the ELC's impact the cap as much as they read as, or do in the BBKL is a fallacy IMO - and one I've brought up in the CC more then once (that we shouldn't count ELC contract bonuses, we're assuming they are met, when I'd wager they were not, and yet we don't count the "B" awards which we know were met). How simple do you think contract negotiations are? or how simple GMs/Agents are? These details are why contracts are done by professionals, and not fans saying "just sign him to 3.75M and be done with it" in regards to each 1st overall pick (or that years equivalent max). These ELC deals are easily the most complicated to work out in terms of fine print.
