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Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:26 pm
by The BBKL Insider
i have an idea, but i'm not on the CC


vote for Steve - he'll ASK all the right questions.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:30 pm
by Peter
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONi have an idea, but i'm not on the CC


vote for Steve - he'll ASK all the right questions.
I vote for Steve

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:37 pm
by shooker
Peter wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONi have an idea, but i'm not on the CC


vote for Steve - he'll ASK all the right questions.
I vote for Steve
I am ok with the idea of a new CC. I was against it at first but they do have a point that this CC has been in power for a long time. Maybe change could be a good thing. Overall it doesn't help me so what ever but it is definitely a discussion that should be had at some point.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:39 pm
by Peter
Every little boy grows up with dreams of being in the BBKL CC.
I vote for opportunity, change, and hope.
Vote ASK.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:57 pm
by The BBKL Insider
just ASK for hope

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:03 pm
by Peter
Nick wroteCOLONCongrats Peter.
Shout out to my trade advisor

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:22 pm
by Shoalzie
Mike wroteCOLONCC has just voted on pick fines/lack of. Will put in announcements threads and such with more explanation when time allows it.

1. For missing Goalie GP Hong/MIN will have a 1st of their choice as well as their waiver choice forfeit as well as a warning for removal.

2. Missing GP: Shoalzie/DET will NOT have his 1st rounder fined. He will need to acquire and forfeit a 2nd rounder.

3. Missing GP: Phion/BUF his 1st rounder will be moved back 2 slots.

4. Missing GP: PHO: Pending


Updated my draft board...the Buffalo pick moves from 9 to 11, correct? The Edmonton (currently held by Toronto) and San Jose (currently held by Minnesota) picks would move up to 9 and 10 respectively.

Also I flip-flopped my pick with Carolina (currently by Dallas) from the lottery results. The Phoenix and Minnesota situations haven't been determined so I think we've got the complete draft laid out right now.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:32 am
by anton
so did the PHX pick get dropped or no?

...just ASKing

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:51 am
by Shoalzie
...also, when is our draft day?

(NHL draft in two months from today)

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:43 am
by Nick
Scott iirc we start 2-weeks (14 days) prior to the start of the NHL draft.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:45 am
by KapG
shooker wroteCOLON
Peter wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONi have an idea, but i'm not on the CC


vote for Steve - he'll ASK all the right questions.
I vote for Steve
I am ok with the idea of a new CC. I was against it at first but they do have a point that this CC has been in power for a long time. Maybe change could be a good thing. Overall it doesn't help me so what ever but it is definitely a discussion that should be had at some point.
are the potential new people even going to take it as seriously as the ones we have in there now?

The way they are going about things makes me think twice about that.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:46 am
by KapG
whats the reason for DET pick not being fined and Buffalos being dropped two spots?

Was there a huge discrepancy in GP between the two?

I'm just curious btw, not trying to stir up any shit :P

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:57 am
by Nick
KapG wroteCOLONwhats the reason for DET pick not being fined and Buffalos being dropped two spots?

Was there a huge discrepancy in GP between the two?
Shoalzie made extensive and consistent effort to meet GP, trading for many NHLers at the cost to his team, the injuries piled up as well as some cuts, all said he missed by very little. The fine of adjusting the 1st overall 1 spot is viewed as a larger fine than the moving a mid pick back 2. The pick was not in last because of lost GP - even with added GP his team was safely in last place. As such we found a different fine for him (as he did still fail to make GP requirements). Once again, we considered his effort, trades, focus on GP, injuries & cuts in the decision. The above is not true for the BUF pick, and once again, adjusting a mid pick is not viewed as impact-ful as adjusting the #1.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:03 am
by KapG
Nick wroteCOLON
KapG wroteCOLONwhats the reason for DET pick not being fined and Buffalos being dropped two spots?

Was there a huge discrepancy in GP between the two?
Shoalzie made extensive and consistent effort to meet GP, trading for many NHLers at the cost to his team, the injuries piled up as well as some cuts, all said he missed by very little. The fine of adjusting the 1st overall 1 spot is viewed as a larger fine than the moving a mid pick back 2. The pick was not in last because of lost GP - even with added GP his team was safely in last place. As such we found a different fine for him (as he did still fail to make GP requirements). Once again, we considered his effort, trades, focus on GP, injuries & cuts in the decision. The above is not true for the BUF pick, and once again, adjusting a mid pick is not viewed as impact-ful as adjusting the #1.
OK cool. Thanks for the detailed response Nick!

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:06 am
by Nick
of note: all the fines were decided pre-lottery (but would be applied post).

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:19 am
by anton
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....the PHX pick?

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:20 am
by The BBKL Insider
KapG wroteCOLON
shooker wroteCOLON
Peter wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONi have an idea, but i'm not on the CC


vote for Steve - he'll ASK all the right questions.
I vote for Steve
I am ok with the idea of a new CC. I was against it at first but they do have a point that this CC has been in power for a long time. Maybe change could be a good thing. Overall it doesn't help me so what ever but it is definitely a discussion that should be had at some point.
are the potential new people even going to take it as seriously as the ones we have in there now?

The way they are going about things makes me think twice about that.
i would assume people would know the 3 of us were kidding by the posts we've been making

i guess our jokes still go over people's heads.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:40 am
by Shoalzie
Nick wroteCOLONScott iirc we start 2-weeks (14 days) prior to the start of the NHL draft.

Figured as much...some time around mid-June was my guess. Thanks.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:45 am
by Nick
anton wroteCOLONsooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....the PHX pick?
Apologies. Somehow we didn't come to decision on how much it should be adjusted. Decision coming.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:05 pm
by Shep
KapG wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLON
KapG wroteCOLONwhats the reason for DET pick not being fined and Buffalos being dropped two spots?

Was there a huge discrepancy in GP between the two?
Shoalzie made extensive and consistent effort to meet GP, trading for many NHLers at the cost to his team, the injuries piled up as well as some cuts, all said he missed by very little. The fine of adjusting the 1st overall 1 spot is viewed as a larger fine than the moving a mid pick back 2. The pick was not in last because of lost GP - even with added GP his team was safely in last place. As such we found a different fine for him (as he did still fail to make GP requirements). Once again, we considered his effort, trades, focus on GP, injuries & cuts in the decision. The above is not true for the BUF pick, and once again, adjusting a mid pick is not viewed as impact-ful as adjusting the #1.
OK cool. Thanks for the detailed response Nick!
Also, Buffalo made it blatantly obvious they were intentionally tanking and trading away plenty of NHLers for picks and prospects, while clearly not worrying about GP until it was too late.