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Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:42 pm
by Mike
Phion Keneuf wroteCOLON
Shoalzie wroteCOLONI've pulled ahead of Buffalo by 1 game...but we bow to Phoenix for being the low team in GP for this year. Looks like everyone but 3 (Buffalo, Detroit and Phoenix) will reach the minimum.
Stupid cbs wouldn't let me put Baertschi and Horak in...

Also got a BUNCH of stupid injuries this season... :(
PM me the changes you want and I'll put them in retroactively (for this week).

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:48 pm
by Peter
And it was not until the final Saturday that the Dallas Stars made gp requirements.

As long as the flames stay out of the bottom 4 picks and don't win the lottery I'm happy.
Lots of teams about to make some major additions to their squads at this draft.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:49 pm
by Shoalzie
Buffalo and myself are probably looking at around 620 or so and Phoenix probably doesn't quite crack 600. The trade freeze gets lifted soon and the lottery happens on Monday...I hope our order gets finalized as soon as possible.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:54 pm
by Phion Keneuf
Shoalzie wroteCOLONBuffalo and myself are probably looking at around 620 or so and Phoenix probably doesn't quite crack 600. The trade freeze gets lifted soon and the lottery happens on Monday...I hope our order gets finalized as soon as possible.
Yup. Damn injuries...

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:28 am
by anton
totally forgot that the lottery winner jumps right up to #1 this year

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:27 am
by Shoalzie
Yup...we'll find out at 8 p.m. on Monday.

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=91605

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:09 am
by Shep
I have no 2013 picks.

Fuck.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:10 am
by Shoalzie
Do thy bidding CC...

Detroit.....618
Buffalo.....615
Phoenix.....594

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:01 am
by Shoalzie
The draft order is complete now with Columbus at 29 and Boston at 30...obviously I'll update it again with the lottery results tonight, which can only affect the first 14 picks.

I have all the picks on the draft board now with who presently owns which spot...

http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9322

For clarification, if you want to know which pick is what...for example, if a pick is shown as "Dallas (from TOR via CAR)". Dallas owns the pick, which was last acquired from Toronto and its Carolina's original pick. I have a hyperlink in blue to the trade where the pick was last acquired. I didn't trace all the trades back to their original owner...I'm just showing the last trade involving that pick. If it was traded directly from the original team it'll just show "via TEAM".

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:09 am
by Mike
Shoalzie wroteCOLONDo thy bidding CC...

Detroit.....618
Buffalo.....615
Phoenix.....594
will do, hopefully to be answered before the lottery.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:48 am
by kyuss
Shoalzie wroteCOLONThe draft order is complete now with Columbus at 29 and Boston at 30...obviously I'll update it again with the lottery results tonight, which can only affect the first 14 picks.

I have all the picks on the draft board now with who presently owns which spot...

http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9322

For clarification, if you want to know which pick is what...for example, if a pick is shown as "Dallas (from TOR via CAR)". Dallas owns the pick, which was last acquired from Toronto and its Carolina's original pick. I have a hyperlink in blue to the trade where the pick was last acquired. I didn't trace all the trades back to their original owner...I'm just showing the last trade involving that pick. If it was traded directly from the original team it'll just show "via TEAM".
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Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:30 pm
by Shoalzie
I think I have the "from" and "via" terminology backwards. I think how they do it is the source of the pick is the "from" and "via" is for how the pick was acquired beyond that original team. I might flip-flop all that so it makes more sense. They use "via" when a pick has been traded more beyond a second team and I'll see that they use that to trace where the pick has gone. In the NHL, they don't trade picks nearly as much as we do. It would be ugly to follow where every pick has gone...that's why I'm sticking with the most recent trade. The information I have is right, I just want to re-format it.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:41 pm
by kyuss
Shoalzie wroteCOLONI think I have the "from" and "via" terminology backwards. I think how they do it is the source of the pick is the "from" and "via" is for how the pick was acquired beyond that original team. I might flip-flop all that so it makes more sense.
yeah, i agree.. it's just that i didn't want to nitpick with that great work.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:02 pm
by anton
might as well make this public - im willing to give #6 + #8 (likely #7 after GP penalties) to get into the top 3. let me know.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:41 pm
by Shoalzie
*Clears throat*

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:00 pm
by Nick
Shoalzie wroteCOLON*Clears throat*
Make him add a roster player for #1, that choice of top 3 is worth a lot. #6+#8 is nice for #3, but for #1 it's gotta have a live body with it.


rinse and repeat twice more (#6 -> #20+good body, #8->#22+good body, #20 + small for a good body, # 22 + small for a good body. All stemming from #1; you've successfully pulled a Shiv with an on-the-fly rebuild.

Effectively turning #1 into 5 good players, reducing risk but not taking on players with a potential decrease in value. Getting Shiv's comments on each step might be an measure for success (note: different from trading WITH Shiv) ahahah. :idea:

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:08 pm
by Shoalzie
Not saying that's all I'd want but that's very much a start of an ideal return. We'll tonight what the order is so we can get this ball rolling.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:13 pm
by anton
here's the kicker - i dont have anyone in particular in mind. i just want in the top 3. the value of the 1st pick, 2nd pick, or 3rd pick are equal to me.

if i have to add simply because the pick is labelled #1 then ill take #3 if available ....n'ahmean.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:19 pm
by Nick
#1 is worth more than #3. No one is doubting all 3 are good, choice is better though.

Re: 2013 Entry Draft Discussion.

PostedCOLON Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:21 pm
by anton
i know, but what im saying is ill take #3 for #6 and #7 long before I consider adding to get #1 because i have no particular preference