Buds Board Keepers League

I no longer send PMs out to be honest. Nor am I on MSN much. If a GM is interested in talking, they usually message now. And I'll usually answer any PM in less than a few hours as it comes straight to my e-mail on my phone. I used to bombard people with PMs which is how I got so many trades done. But don't have the energy for that anymore.

Loser

lol man anton rly busts shoalzie's chops on a regular basis. I'd better step it up next year before I have a 'shitty' team for 3 years running then. I is scafred of his criticism freals

Shoalzie wroteCOLONI never understand why there's such an early rush to make deals unless you're dealing with guys under contract or it's involving draft pick when we've got all the way until October until the games count. We've got about 4 months to shake things up and we're about month from free agency.

I simply don't have your patience.

Shoalzie wroteCOLONAll the knowledge and experience I've acquired since I've joined this league has obviously come well after I mismanaged my assets when I started. You wouldn't want to face me now if I had the same assets I started with. I can't undo what I did to put myself in the spot I'm in. It takes time to turn things around when you have less to work with.

It does?

Believe me, you don't want to have do this. When a lot of my guys are either free agents or are buyout candidates...seems silly to trade guys now before July 5 unless someone wants to overpay without knowing where these guys are going. If I had a lineup like yours or Kyle's or Steve's or Nick's or Shiv's or <insert any other top team here>...you can trade guys whenever because you know what you have. Ekman-Larsson is probably the only established player I have that is actually signed beyond next year.

Lee wroteCOLONIt does?

I'll fully acknowledge that I made a lot of impulsive and uninformed deals when I first got here and took a middle of the road team down to the bottom and it takes some time to reload. I traded away too many established guys and got marginal stuff in return...that adds up (or stacks up against you) over time. Plus, hard to rebuild when you don't have your 1st round pick for a couple years...my fault, of course.

This league is just flat out different from any other league I've been in. If you don't get fair value in trades nor if you don't draft well, it's a struggle. I've had to read up on obscure prospects and focus on faceoff wins and blocked shots more than I ever imagined I would. A lot different animal when in most leagues you can re-draft most of your team every year and you only have to focus on the basic stats. Mistakes don't carryover like they do here.

Like I said, if I could get back what I started with...I would've done it completely different. The patience and knowledge I've picked up now would've helped me from making all the mistakes I made when I got here.

I'm a big believer each guy can trade the way the feel, some guys are more patient, some guys are trigger happy, i think mistakes can be made for being both (and i'm not critizing, i'm just suggesting that waiting is a bad idea, and sometimes pulling the trigger too early can be a mistake) i've been on both sides of this argument. I've made trades way too fast and should have waited, and i've made guys wait on deals only to lose that deal to someone else.

That all said, if i guy wants to hold off on deals who are we to blame them? or if a guy wants to make a deal, who are we to stop them.

that's just my 2 cents, it's not worth much, so take it for what it is.

Fair Deals S wroteCOLONthe Pens are gonna win the cup

they'll roll boston in 5

and then take out LA (in the finals) in 5 as well.

I love your predictions!! Every single one is soo wrong and against Boston, it is music to my ears. As long as you keep making these claims, Bruins might actually have a chance. Keep it up. This can also be said for BBKL predictions too.

well my LA one sucks

hopefully the pens bounce back tonight

Fair Deals S wroteCOLONI'm a big believer each guy can trade the way the feel, some guys are more patient, some guys are trigger happy, i think mistakes can be made for being both (and i'm not critizing, i'm just suggesting that waiting is a bad idea, and sometimes pulling the trigger too early can be a mistake) i've been on both sides of this argument. I've made trades way too fast and should have waited, and i've made guys wait on deals only to lose that deal to someone else.

That all said, if i guy wants to hold off on deals who are we to blame them? or if a guy wants to make a deal, who are we to stop them.

that's just my 2 cents, it's not worth much, so take it for what it is.

Obviously when you're at/near the top, you're allowed a little more wiggle room to make a mistake or take a risk on a trade.

I put myself in the position I'm in and I have to be a little more creative/patient than most teams would. As I deem it, I don't have a lot of "disposable income" and my best players right now are basically depth players to most teams. I don't have NHL level or prospect depth coming out my ears. I'm still at the stage where I'm piecing together an active roster each year and any hope of any of my prospects developing into anything takes a couple/few years since I don't have a bunch of former 1st rounders...it's a process.

I'm not saying I have all the answers...this is just how I'm choosing to handle my situation after learning from previous mistakes. I'm trying to not dig myself a bigger hole by being overly aggressive. I'm more than one trade away from making the playoffs. I just have to make what I feel is the right deal when it's there...ie--the Ekman-Larsson for the #2 pick trade. I've said before, I'm not in a hurry to make a bad trade.

We've all made mistakes. No worries.

Fair Deals S wroteCOLONwell my LA one sucks

hopefully the pens bounce back tonight

Nah, Its too easy to cheer for PIT. Love Bruins to prove that you can't just buy a cup. I know they are still the underdogs(Bruins) but after the Leafs, this is just the Gravy Train for most B's fans. If they can knock off the juggernaut that is PIT, it would be epic. This round almost feels like the Cup final.

Shoalzie wroteCOLON

Fair Deals S wroteCOLONI'm a big believer each guy can trade the way the feel, some guys are more patient, some guys are trigger happy, i think mistakes can be made for being both (and i'm not critizing, i'm just suggesting that waiting is a bad idea, and sometimes pulling the trigger too early can be a mistake) i've been on both sides of this argument. I've made trades way too fast and should have waited, and i've made guys wait on deals only to lose that deal to someone else.

That all said, if i guy wants to hold off on deals who are we to blame them? or if a guy wants to make a deal, who are we to stop them.

that's just my 2 cents, it's not worth much, so take it for what it is.

Obviously when you're at/near the top, you're allowed a little more wiggle room to make a mistake or take a risk on a trade.

I put myself in the position I'm in and I have to be a little more creative/patient than most teams would. As I deem it, I don't have a lot of "disposable income" and my best players right now are basically depth players to most teams. I don't have NHL level or prospect depth coming out my ears. I'm still at the stage where I'm piecing together an active roster each year and any hope of any of my prospects developing into anything takes a couple/few years since I don't have a bunch of former 1st rounders...it's a process.

I'm not saying I have all the answers...this is just how I'm choosing to handle my situation after learning from previous mistakes. I'm trying to not dig myself a bigger hole by being overly aggressive. I'm more than one trade away from making the playoffs. I just have to make what I feel is the right deal when it's there...ie--the Ekman-Larsson for the #2 pick trade. I've said before, I'm not in a hurry to make a bad trade.

You're probably going to be pissed to learn that Goncharov sign in the KHL.

Lee wroteCOLONYou're probably going to be pissed to learn that Goncharov sign in the KHL.

Not a shocker I guess since he's buried on their organizational depth chart. I've lost a few guys to the KHL already...what's one more?

Moderate defense depth is at least something I do have. Goncharov could leave but I've got a guy Mayfield joining the Isles system this next year or Lowe signing his ELC to play with the Canes and if things shake out right with buyouts and free agency, I'll have the ability to supplement an extra NHL defenseman or two into depth in other areas. But I don't know that until guys can be bought out and the dominos start to fall.

What kills me with most of my prospects is having these mid-round guys that you have to wait multiple years for them to even turn pro and then take another couple years to be NHL-worthy. That's where patience is tested...do you wait on guys to develop or do you flip them for something more NHL-ready? Just need to find the right deals when they're there or just choose to stick it out and hope your patience pays off.

my advice:

Stick with patients unless the right deal comes along.

Fair Deals S wroteCOLONmy advice:

Stick with patients unless the right deal comes along.

You might get in trouble if you "stick too many Patients"

Fair Deals S wroteCOLONmy advice:

Stick with patients unless the right deal comes along.

That's basically it.

I'm not in the business of taking everyone's aging (and declining) veterans for my decent prospects either. That was another mistake I made too often. Trading away solid prospects for 'get me over' players that had little resale value. You lose value even more when you're stuck with a guy that doesn't help you win nor are they going to play much longer.

Again, that's why I love the OEL trade...I traded away a potential star player at the #2 pick but I get a young star in Ekman-Larsson. I can't make a lot of those deals given my limited resources but that's the direction I want to go. If I'm not going to be that good for a while, why trade away younger players for guys that aren't even going to be around by the time my team is even competitive? Unless I can rip some teams off, you just have to wait things out.

Shoalzie wroteCOLON

Fair Deals S wroteCOLONmy advice:

Stick with patients unless the right deal comes along.

That's basically it.

I'm not in the business of taking everyone's aging (and declining) veterans for my decent prospects either. That was another mistake I made too often. Trading away solid prospects for 'get me over' players that had little resale value. You lose value even more when you're stuck with a guy that doesn't help you win nor are they going to play much longer.

Again, that's why I love the OEL trade...I traded away a potential star player at the #2 pick but I get a young star in Ekman-Larsson. I can't make a lot of those deals given my limited resources but that's the direction I want to go. If I'm not going to be that good for a while, why trade away younger players for guys that aren't even going to be around by the time my team is even competitive? Unless I can rip some teams off, you just have to wait things out.

Keep #2 warm for me again next year

by the i'll have Dougie Hamilton all warmed up for u (hopefully he takes the next step in his development - If not) Jack Johnson is your man.

Key to the OEL deal IMO, was 2 desirable pieces.