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Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:28 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Shep wroteCOLON
Kezia wroteCOLONThe agreement we had was that it could only be used on Jagr. I honestly don't care if it's someone other than who I'm targeting, or who I promised Bill that I wouldn't take, but if it is, Shep and yourself shouldn't expect too many trade offers or responses from myself in the future.
lmao.

First of all, I was never told "I'm trading you this pick that HAS to be used on Jagr" I was only asked not to take the retard you want. But if this is how you wanna play I won't take Jagr out of spite.

All of this is just me being nice. I was never involved in these "clauses"
Good for you.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:30 pm
by Scott
TBH, it is pretty much bullshit that Lee made an agreement with someone and now that person doesn't own the pick anymore. But Lee should've protected himself and made another clause when moving the pick. Lesson learned indeed.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:31 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Kezia wroteCOLONYou not being told isn't my fault. It is a good lesson on who to trust and who not to trust, though.
That is huge when making a "gentlemans agreement." No doubt.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:33 pm
by Lee
I was told that kind of condition probably wouldn't be allowed ( has to be a specific player) , hence the gentlemans agreement.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:34 pm
by Shep
You really think I'm that big of a dick to make trade, knowing you guys had an agreemet, only to take that player?

Wow.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:34 pm
by MSP4LYFE
The Devil wroteCOLONTBH, it is pretty much bullshit that Lee made an agreement with someone and now that person doesn't own the pick anymore. But Lee should've protected himself and made another clause when moving the pick. Lesson learned indeed.
I agree completely. This is not on Shep, and frankly Lee is lucky it's shep, and not someone else who owns the pick...

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:34 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Shep wroteCOLONYou really think I'm that big of a dick to make trade, knowing you guys had an agreemet, only to take that player?

Wow.
He thinks you have a big cock, you should take it as a compliment...

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:36 pm
by kimmer
Guys Scott is picking on me on MSN help

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:36 pm
by Lee
I know that *some* people would do it just to be a dick.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:37 pm
by Shep
SCOTT LEAVE HIM ALONE!

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:37 pm
by Lee
Dolomite wroteCOLONGuys Scott is picking on me on MSN help

You deserve it for wanting Yashin, Miele and Camper for Matt Stajan.


ocrap.. now you know my picks :P

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:49 pm
by Lee
Yashin was kind of a money wrench into the wheels... There was another prospect I'd stupidly high on as well.. so I had to go and add Calgary's waiver :P

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:57 pm
by Nick
Shep agreed to honour the Andy Miele condition Lee, I told you straight up that I'd be picking Jagr with the pick, gave you a gentlemen's deal on that. There is no way you have any beef with Shep.


Cannot condition the pick to one player, tried to be nice and honest about it Lee.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:05 pm
by Lee
Miele is the only one I care about. I'd be trading Yashin anyways and Camper is buried in Boston. I've had a stiffy for Miele all year so it's somewhat understandable that I'd be slightly pissed off if he's not there when we had an agreement in place.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:12 pm
by Lee
I for the record Nick, I distinctly remember the conversation with you, I was offering you the 4th overall pick because I wanted to make sure I got all of my guys. The agreement was that I'd give you the 1st pick if you agreed that it could only be used to take Jagr, precisely so I could avoid this type of situation.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:17 pm
by Nick
Kezia wroteCOLONMiele is the only one I care about. I'd be trading Yashin anyways and Camper is buried in Boston. I've had a stiffy for Miele all year so it's somewhat understandable that I'd be slightly pissed off if he's not there when we had an agreement in place.

So what are you bitching about?

I asked if Shep would honour the no-Miele condition, he said yes...
I for the record Nick, I distinctly remember the conversation with you, I was offering you the 4th overall pick because I wanted to make sure I got all of my guys. The agreement was that I'd give you the 1st pick if you agreed that it could only be used to take Jagr, precisely so I could avoid this type of situation.
and I had zero interest in the 4th because it didn't guarantee me the guy I wanted, and I was dead honest in that. It was a deal killer if not 1st overall waiver, and I said I wouldn't pick your guy... so ? Shep will likely take Jagr (as a good team and a good player it makes sense, also a guy he likes iirc) but you're method of claiming the entire world is working to keep you down has a weird way of keeping you down.

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:27 pm
by Lee
So what are you bitching about?

I asked if Shep would honour the no-Miele condition, he said yes...
It's the principle of being put into this situation when I structured the deal as such so I wouldn't be put into it.
and I had zero interest in the 4th because it didn't guarantee me the guy I wanted, and I was dead honest in that. It was a deal killer if not 1st overall waiver, and I said I wouldn't pick your guy... so ? Shep will likely take Jagr (as a good team and a good player it makes sense, also a guy he likes iirc) but you're method of claiming the entire world is working to keep you down has a weird way of keeping you down.
And it was a deal killer for me without the Jagr only protection. The only place I've gone is up since I joined the league so I really don't see how that last comment applies. Was it in reference to the waiver compensation? How's that discussion going, by the way?

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:39 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Lee there is no situation...Shep is not taking Miele...

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:40 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Kezia wroteCOLONIt's the principle of being put into this situation when I structured the deal as such so I wouldn't be put into it.
Evidently not... :lol:

Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:44 pm
by Lee
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Kezia wroteCOLONIt's the principle of being put into this situation when I structured the deal as such so I wouldn't be put into it.
Evidently not... :lol:
Him ignoring or misquoting the stipulation put in place doesn't make it less relevant.