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Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:10 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
I see both sides of the argument. Not that upset with the outcome, but likely something to standardize going forward. If a pick is "dropped", it should be done.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:11 pm
by koomzzz
since i'm relatively new and i loathe shit like this. my two cents is worth absolutely nothing. but you're gonna read it anyway.

i don't know who is on the cc, but i at the very least know matthew is, to me, if he is posting that a pick is dropped during the waiver draft, then that pick should be dropped. i don't see how something can be altered after that. we had multiple people complain that they had offered fraser something for that pick, but since other things have come up, he decided to drop the pick. it should end there. a posting that a pick is dropped isn't a fucking sign that reads "first one to offer gets it". the pick is gone. there shouldn't have been an auction. there shouldn't have been a trade.

just my opinion.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:15 pm
by Chuck Norris
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONYeah I'll go fuck myself Chuck, nice response.
I think accusing me of abusing my position in the CC warrants such a response. You know me better than what you're accusing me of Josh and I find it insulting that you even think it's a possibility. And t same goes for you Paul.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:18 pm
by kimmer
koomzzz wroteCOLONsince i'm relatively new and i loathe shit like this. my two cents is worth absolutely nothing. but you're gonna read it anyway.

i don't know who is on the cc, but i at the very least know matthew is, to me, if he is posting that a pick is dropped during the waiver draft, then that pick should be dropped. i don't see how something can be altered after that. we had multiple people complain that they had offered fraser something for that pick, but since other things have come up, he decided to drop the pick. it should end there. a posting that a pick is dropped isn't a fucking sign that reads "first one to offer gets it". the pick is gone. there shouldn't have been an auction. there shouldn't have been a trade.

just my opinion.
Hey bro
There is automatic auction for entry picks for those who drop so why shouldn't waiv3r picks be the case

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:20 pm
by Chuck Norris
And for the record I had no knowledge of any other offers. I made an offer. It got accepted. That's all my part in this is. Anything further is pure speculation at best.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:21 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
kimmer wroteCOLON
koomzzz wroteCOLONsince i'm relatively new and i loathe shit like this. my two cents is worth absolutely nothing. but you're gonna read it anyway.

i don't know who is on the cc, but i at the very least know matthew is, to me, if he is posting that a pick is dropped during the waiver draft, then that pick should be dropped. i don't see how something can be altered after that. we had multiple people complain that they had offered fraser something for that pick, but since other things have come up, he decided to drop the pick. it should end there. a posting that a pick is dropped isn't a fucking sign that reads "first one to offer gets it". the pick is gone. there shouldn't have been an auction. there shouldn't have been a trade.

just my opinion.
Hey bro
There is automatic auction for entry picks for those who drop so why shouldn't waiv3r picks be the case
Either way, should standardize it.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:22 pm
by Matthew
koomzzz wroteCOLONsince i'm relatively new and i loathe shit like this. my two cents is worth absolutely nothing. but you're gonna read it anyway.

i don't know who is on the cc, but i at the very least know matthew is, to me, if he is posting that a pick is dropped during the waiver draft, then that pick should be dropped. i don't see how something can be altered after that. we had multiple people complain that they had offered fraser something for that pick, but since other things have come up, he decided to drop the pick. it should end there. a posting that a pick is dropped isn't a fucking sign that reads "first one to offer gets it". the pick is gone. there shouldn't have been an auction. there shouldn't have been a trade.

just my opinion.
This is probably what should have happened.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:34 pm
by Arian The Insider
lol

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:36 pm
by kyuss
kimmer wroteCOLON Hey bro
There is automatic auction for entry picks for those who drop ..
uh?

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:47 pm
by koomzzz
kimmer wroteCOLON Hey bro
There is automatic auction for entry picks for those who drop so why shouldn't waiv3r picks be the case
what are you even talking about? IIRC your picks were auctioned off after your rage quit, and there was an CC decision made on that. this isn't that.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:55 pm
by kyuss
koomzzz wroteCOLONsince i'm relatively new and i loathe shit like this....
wait, you got me scared here.. stuff like this happens pretty regularly in BBKL (well, actually not as often as in the past, but good to see people arguing hard over a late waiver pick!) and we don't want you to leave! :)
take it easy!

as for the matter of discussion..

I agree with Josh.
Which doesn't imply any blame on Chuck btw (nor on Matthew who just tried to help out). And I didn't have the feeling Josh had actually a problem with Chuck in particular, more like pointing out a less than ideal process, which involving CC members made it look even less ideal.

As for what to do, Chuck already made his selection so at this point it's easier to leave things as they're.
Dropping the pick for good or allowing everyone to offer on it would have been the best options otherwise.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:07 pm
by kimmer
koomzzz wroteCOLON
kimmer wroteCOLON Hey bro
There is automatic auction for entry picks for those who drop so why shouldn't waiv3r picks be the case
what are you even talking about? IIRC your picks were auctioned off after your rage quit, and there was an CC decision made on that. this isn't that.
No
I didnt quit that time
I just said im 2 bz to draft so theyre gonna be forfeited in advance

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:08 pm
by Chuck Norris
If it's an issue I'm OK with reversing the deal and revoking my pick.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:09 pm
by kyuss
kimmer wroteCOLON
koomzzz wroteCOLONwhat are you even talking about? IIRC your picks were auctioned off after your rage quit, and there was an CC decision made on that. this isn't that.
No
I didnt quit that time
I just said im 2 bz to draft so theyre gonna be forfeited in advance
I believe Koomzzz is right and that was a different situation

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:09 pm
by kyuss
Chuck Norris wroteCOLONIf it's an issue I'm OK with reversing the deal and revoking my pick.
meh, it would still be less than ideal because everyone saw who you were going to pick, which alters the draft. So it's not like it would completely solve the issue. The current situation may be the lesser evil at this point?
if Josh and Mike can live with that, that is

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:15 pm
by CasperX22
Well this has been an entertaining read.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:24 pm
by kimmer
After becoming a prison guard, chuck comes off way more aggressive and verbally abusive now
It's sweet

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:30 pm
by Sensfanjosh
kyuss wroteCOLON
Chuck Norris wroteCOLONIf it's an issue I'm OK with reversing the deal and revoking my pick.
meh, it would still be less than ideal because everyone saw who you were going to pick, which alters the draft. So it's not like it would completely solve the issue. The current situation may be the lesser evil at this point?
if Josh and Mike can live with that, that is
I have no real issue, I was bringing it up just so we could have the discussion and avoid issues in the future, I was told to fuck off so apparently that is how the league sees to dealing with issues. I said it was nothing directed at the parties involved but whatever.

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:32 pm
by CasperX22
kimmer wroteCOLONAfter becoming a prison guard, chuck comes off way more aggressive and verbally abusive now
It's sweet
Marriage and witnessing a bunch of prison rape is plenty to fuck with someone's mental health lol!

Re: MTL - VAN Deal

PostedCOLON Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:49 pm
by kyuss
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLON
Chuck Norris wroteCOLONIf it's an issue I'm OK with reversing the deal and revoking my pick.
meh, it would still be less than ideal because everyone saw who you were going to pick, which alters the draft. So it's not like it would completely solve the issue. The current situation may be the lesser evil at this point?
if Josh and Mike can live with that, that is
I have no real issue, I was bringing it up just so we could have the discussion and avoid issues in the future, I was told to fuck off so apparently that is how the league sees to dealing with issues.
well I didn't mean to ask if you were fine with being told to fuck off, so you shouldn't take that as the league's way of dealing with this issue :lol: