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Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:28 am
by KapG
Bruyns wroteCOLONKapG wroteCOLONDallas...who is ur trade advisor? They should be fired
He has been here for a while now, hasnt needed an advisor for a long time and knew nothing of the trade.
In his defence he probably wants to lose again next year and Lee traded for CAR to help lose too. Lack is 27 and I'm not a believer he is a good #1 and Miller doesnt have much left. There are some very interesting players at the top of the waiver draft so adding that a 2nd and Aberg isnt terrible and IF the 37th overall pick Nedeljkovic can become the future starter I think he wins this although I probably would have demanded more from Chuck.
I'm really kinda just giving him shit and not trying to put you down Matt. Its why I put the winking smiley face down at the end.
Anyways, I suppose I'm maybe being hard on Will but I haven't liked many of his trades.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:30 am
by kimmer
it's ok to be hard on him
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:30 am
by Bruyns
Still an improvement on Pete who traded a 1st for Brian Gibbons haha.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 10:59 am
by Nick
Amazing cycle by Chuck
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 11:02 am
by kimmer
Shameful deal
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 11:02 am
by kimmer
K ill worry about my own team chuck sry for posting
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 11:46 pm
by Matthew
Will, post what you gained/lost from trading from the NJD system to the CAR system. like, the assets gained/lost outside of the systems.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Thu May 21, 2015 11:56 pm
by Fraser
Matthew wroteCOLONWill, post what you gained/lost from trading from the NJD system to the CAR system. like, the assets gained/lost outside of the systems.
NJ System
X
CAR System
Pontus Aberg
Nathan Walker
Jon Gillies
Frederik Gauthier
2015 2nd Rounder (NJD)
2015 Waiver Pick (PHI)
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 12:04 am
by CasperX22
Fraser wroteCOLONMatthew wroteCOLONWill, post what you gained/lost from trading from the NJD system to the CAR system. like, the assets gained/lost outside of the systems.
NJ System
X
CAR System
Pontus Aberg
Nathan Walker
Jon Gillies
Frederik Gauthier
2015 2nd Rounder (NJD)
2015 Waiver Pick (PHI)
Not awful when you break it down like that. I still would have wanted more from Chuck though.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 12:09 am
by Fraser
CasperX22 wroteCOLONFraser wroteCOLONMatthew wroteCOLONWill, post what you gained/lost from trading from the NJD system to the CAR system. like, the assets gained/lost outside of the systems.
NJ System
X
CAR System
Pontus Aberg
Nathan Walker
Jon Gillies
Frederik Gauthier
2015 2nd Rounder (NJD)
2015 Waiver Pick (PHI)
Not awful when you break it down like that. I still would have wanted more from Chuck though.
I would have wanted a more concrete elite asset if I'm downgrading from top 5 to bottom 5 goalie systems. I like Gillies but after that its a whole pack of hit or miss prospects for me.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 12:20 am
by CasperX22
Fraser wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONFraser wroteCOLONMatthew wroteCOLONWill, post what you gained/lost from trading from the NJD system to the CAR system. like, the assets gained/lost outside of the systems.
NJ System
X
CAR System
Pontus Aberg
Nathan Walker
Jon Gillies
Frederik Gauthier
2015 2nd Rounder (NJD)
2015 Waiver Pick (PHI)
Not awful when you break it down like that. I still would have wanted more from Chuck though.
I would have wanted a more concrete elite asset if I'm downgrading from top 5 to bottom 5 goalie systems. I like Gillies but after that its a whole pack of hit or miss prospects for me.
I'm not disagreeing by any means. I feel he should have gotten more in this particular deal, but overall big picture he could have done a lot worse. He's taken on a lot more risk than I would have liked if I was in his shoes.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 2:00 am
by Nick
NJD is a top 5 system?
Hell I think Carolina is way closer to being a good team than the devils
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 2:16 am
by Fraser
Nick wroteCOLONNJD is a top 5 system?
Hell I think Carolina is way closer to being a good team than the devils
Id say so. Top 5 in value at least. You have an uncontested elite level starter in Schneider for at least the next 5 years. Sure he may not have the supporting cast around him, but has proven to put up consistent numbers right near the top of the league for enough years now that he would be the first guy I would take outside Lundqvist/Rask/Price/Rinne.
I do not like Carolina one bit. Don't see Ward having a job much longer if his play persists, and he's entering the last year of his deal.
A couple times Darkness and I came close to a larger package deals with Vasi going his way for the NJ system. One of the very few I would have considered moving him for.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 4:53 am
by CasperX22
Nick wroteCOLONNJD is a top 5 system?
Hell I think Carolina is way closer to being a good team than the devils
Um...no they aren't. Both of some nice pieces here and there, but they will both likely be bottom tier teams next season.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 5:05 am
by kyuss
just like the Devils for yrs to come?
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 6:15 am
by lightupdadarkness
I also didn't have the complete system and Yeah I could have gotten more out of chuck but he has helped me in some other trades so I was fine "losing" this deal and helping him out. Got give to get and I'm fine with this.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 7:20 am
by The BBKL Insider
Fraser wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONFraser wroteCOLONMatthew wroteCOLONWill, post what you gained/lost from trading from the NJD system to the CAR system. like, the assets gained/lost outside of the systems.
NJ System
X
CAR System
Pontus Aberg
Nathan Walker
Jon Gillies
Frederik Gauthier
2015 2nd Rounder (NJD)
2015 Waiver Pick (PHI)
Not awful when you break it down like that. I still would have wanted more from Chuck though.
I would have wanted a more concrete elite asset if I'm downgrading from top 5 to bottom 5 goalie systems. I like Gillies but after that its a whole pack of hit or miss prospects for me.
The way Babcock talked about Gauthier i seem to think he'll be a sure hit under his system.
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 8:17 am
by kimmer
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONI also didn't have the complete system and Yeah I could have gotten more out of chuck but he has helped me in some other trades so I was fine "losing" this deal and helping him out. Got give to get and I'm fine with this.
This post doesn't make any sense
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 8:20 am
by kimmer
Frankly all u waz, was a mere victim gm to be used by MTL GM in terms of completing his cycle and ur the friend whose partnership is suitable enough to get a quick easier deal done. If chuck is, and always has been a contender there is no way he was gonna roll season with car system lol
Re: MTL - Dal Deal
PostedCOLON Fri May 22, 2015 9:00 am
by bills09
No love for the Wpg system
Connor Hellebuyuk is the best goalie prospect in hockey right now