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Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:12 pm
by Sensfanjosh
I still liked my offer over this one but Dallas is making the moves he needs to.
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:23 pm
by lightupdadarkness
kimmer wroteCOLONIf i were dallas and this fuckin mike kid approaches me for mcdavid I'm starting talks for bergeron/benn ++
That's what you don't get. There is NO quick fix for this team. I could literally drop the whole minors system Peter left and lose absolutely nothing. You view short term while I'm looking a little longer b/c when you build, you build from the ground up b/c this isn't even a rebuild.
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:27 pm
by dave1959
So HOW MANY teams is Mike really GM of????
Lol
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:39 pm
by kimmer
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONkimmer wroteCOLONIf i were dallas and this fuckin mike kid approaches me for mcdavid I'm starting talks for bergeron/benn ++
That's what you don't get. There is NO quick fix for this team. I could literally drop the whole minors system Peter left and lose absolutely nothing. You view short term while I'm looking a little longer b/c when you build, you build from the ground up b/c this isn't even a rebuild.
? Dude u dont acquire benn/bergeron to quick fix the team
Theyre players of actual value AND stats
Those r the kinds u rape the other team for guys like MCDAVID
not a bunch of question marks that hadn't done anything/below 1st overall expectations (yak)
Krug is the ONLY piece in here thats done somethinf above his pay grade and hes not even close to what I'd have ask for in return.
In fact what YOU did (or think u did by acquiring "DEPTH") Is that ur attempt to bring in NUMBER of shitty non-roster assets mike NEVER even used to win his bbkl championship, ur actually trying to quick fix ur depth hoping all the guys u got sticks and produces at full value
Do u seriously think that's smart?... Lol Connor is not a one time wonder hes basically gonna be outputting 90+ pts in his rookie season none like sid/ovy had done in their rookie yrs (100+). By this logic ur better off holding onto ONE mcdavid to build around and downgrade ur other good assets like HAMILTON/BARKOV when they are at PEAK value.
What do THEY do that mcdavid won't? Why do u even have the urge to downgrade mcdavid for this fuckin trash? And what do u fuckin mean by 'i have no depth'? U mean nhler depth? All u got are fuckin yak and krug in terms of that LOL rest of which you got aren't eveb guranteed to make nhl let alone impact in it. Fuck, even YAKUPOV has fuckin shit all impact in the nhl what's wrong with u
U gut a team like mikes proper if he has the fuckin AUDACITY to have the kinda depth he does and wins a goddamn championship + NOW WANTS mcdavid on top of that? Jesus Christ dude ask around seriously this kinda depth is NOT depth... U need NHLer depth and guys like benn/backes/bergeron/ANY OF HIS TOP 4 WINGERS + a few or one good 1st to restock ur prospect cupboards is wat u properly depth-ize ur team... U can SELL those top 20 keeper assets one by one for more 1sts + slightly lesser nhlers but younger than those guys are even. What do u think benn is worth if he were to go alone for example?
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:43 pm
by kimmer
Dont even talk about improving depth man. U know for a fact 28 of us know for a fact that mikes not cringing ONE bit for giving up any of those for one mcdavid. Hell, William bro , if u asked, he'd have given u 3 more 2nds on top to get it done if u only asked for em. None of those are impact pieces and the reward he gains hes fuckin laughing. That, on principle alone, the fact that u didnt make him work for this pick definitely makes me rage. Yep
I care too much for this youngin. I gotta stop caring. Only way to survive in this league now
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:54 pm
by lightupdadarkness
kimmer wroteCOLONDont even talk about improving depth man. U know for a fact 28 of us know for a fact that mikes not cringing ONE bit for giving up any of those for one mcdavid. Hell, William bro , if u asked, he'd have given u 3 more 2nds on top to get it done if u only asked for em. None of those are impact pieces and the reward he gains hes fuckin laughing. That, on principle alone, the fact that u didnt make him work for this pick definitely makes me rage. Yep
I care too much for this youngin. I gotta stop caring. Only way to survive in this league now
So 3 more 2nds makes or breaks the deal for me. Noted Kimmy!
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:58 pm
by kimmer
There's no other reason why I'm posting such long paragraphs and I was racing in my fuckin ricer at 90mph going home from work bro. I care a lot. Shit like this is not good for ur team. Shoalzie is wrong, bryuns is wrong. Mike adds mcdavid as icing on cake going into 2015-2016 without losing a soul on that 2015 bbkl champ team roster (krug ok lol) Thats just embarrassing man. Hes playing his usual 'i kno i raped so I'll post zero times in this thread' and goes ahead makes a fuckin block to further manage his team lol. Hes laughing in front of comp right now bro. Think about it. This shit shud make ur head explode, not mine
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:00 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Yep your right
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:05 pm
by kimmer
Shit
Fuckin
Leagueeee
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:05 pm
by LeanMachine
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLONTo TOR:
2015 1st rounder (DAL)
TO DAL:
2015 1st Rounder (CGY)
2015 1st Rounder (CHI)
2016 1st Rounder (CAR)
Nail Yakupov
Torey Krug
Joshua Ho-Sang
Emile Poirier
Chris Bigras
Yak + McDavid in EDM could be pretty sexy in the long term
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:09 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Yak will probably play with mcdavid. This is a very good deal for both teams
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:26 pm
by Chuck Norris
Paul you're wrong. Period. I gave him the advice this was a tough deal to do but one necessary given the garbage team and lack of any meaningful assets he inherited. Worry about your own deals before you bash this one.
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:28 pm
by The BBKL Insider
If yak plays with mcdavid I see him developing into a 40g and 70+ point winger. Plus you add krug and like six 1st rd picks.
Excellent deal
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:38 pm
by kimmer
Ok just say what? U bashing on my advised deal? I'm offended
I'll take it no problem
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:41 pm
by kyuss
really not a fan of the package DAL got.
And I don't understand why you would trade McDavid before giving all GMs the chance to offer for him. It's not like if Mike was about to withdraw that offer, or if DAL wouldn't have get other similar/better offers (in fact I think DAL already received better offers among the public ones.)
puzzling move really
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:01 pm
by Matthew
This deal will help Dallas in the long-term, but if this is me, I wait out until the draft unless Mike adds the 2016 OTT 1st rounder, given where Ottawa landed this season. I don't think there should be any reason to not have Mike's likely highest 1st rounder in this deal.
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:10 pm
by Nick
That's is a LOT of assets, all of whom are interesting.
I tried with:
Silfverberg
Rielly Smith
Brandon Smith
Teemu Pulkinen
9th Overall
Julius Honka
&
Alex Tuch
Josh Morrissey
William Nylander
Teemu Pulkkinen
9th overall or Julius Honka
Dominik Masin or Tyler Wotherspoon
Nikita Nesterov or Jyrki Jokipakka
and can see why he went with Mike's. It woulda been a tough call from the risk factor for me.
Overall I think he did well. Hurts that Mike was able to add.
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm
by Sensfanjosh
Yeah my final offer was Pasta, Ritchie, Laughton, Kapanen, MSL or Weiss and Jusse Saros....lots of good offers put out there.
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:18 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Yep sure were and I asked opinions on all of them from more than a handful of guys in here and took their feedback and made an evaluation. I get the generational talent but hard to argue turning a guy who's not even drafted yet into two young Nhl players, and handful of 1st round specs developing nicely and some more 1st. If I was in a different situation I'd kept him but I'm just trying to improve the cards I was dealt.
Re: DAL-TOR
PostedCOLON Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:37 pm
by Bruyns
kyuss wroteCOLON
And I don't understand why you would trade McDavid before giving all GMs the chance to offer for him.
He shopped it for a long time.