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this would also enable GM's to be somewhat? (forced) to venture into other aspects of managing a team in different avenues/mindset for a change. For heavy contending teams that barely pay much attention to prospects (I could name off a few... not saying theyre ignorant about them, but the focus is not heavily on them), this will give them some chance to want to get to know them this way. I support whatever decision made, that translates into incorporating this new contract format/tracking.

This matter was covered a couple of yrs ago, but even when agreed inside the (old) CC it didn't became official and publi
I brought it up the followinv seasons, but to no avail. Frustrating.
Tomorrow i should find the time to quote here that old stuff.

p.s. this league is too fucking quiet especially this time around the off-season

3 designated slide contracts per team, that you have to submit at roster submission.. make a thread for it, easy to keep track of, let's do it!!

If you don't hoard garbage AHL players you likely won't hit 50 contracts

Arian The Insider wroteCOLONIf you don't hoard garbage AHL players you likely won't hit 50 contracts

True, unless you're me and u have alot of young ahl players and atm 7 signed junior eligible players.. I am for it obviously and I would like to see us add a fun new wrinkle to gm'ing and strategies

Monk wroteCOLON

Arian The Insider wroteCOLONIf you don't hoard garbage AHL players you likely won't hit 50 contracts

True, unless you're me and u have alot of young ahl players and atm 7 signed junior eligible players.. I am for it obviously and I would like to see us add a fun new wrinkle to gm'ing and strategies

ya i guess there's always 1 or 2 people that will run into the problem

Id consider lee and myself in the same boat as Luke and I'm sure there's more

Yup. I have like 8 first rounds from this year alone, 5 of which already have contracts.

kimmer wroteCOLONp.s. this league is too fucking quiet especially this time around the off-season

Agreed. Mid-late august I'm already in full hockey mode anticipation.

So start a topic. I don't have an off season.

I'm thinking Ekblad and Bennett might be my only slide guys and the only guy I have my doubts on playing the entire season would be Bennett. I'd make an effort to carry just 50 contracts the offseason isn't over yet. I'm at 48 without Ekblad signed and Bissonnette is supposedly going to sign with someone soon. The only reason I'd want to use a slide would be if I get up to 51 and I'd probably just tag Bennett. I do have a couple guys with contracts I could drop if I have to. I already have to drop several guys to get back down to 90.

I like the slide option because if gives teams some flexibility. Only teams at or near 50 contracts would even need to worry about that. If you've got a lot of rookies and just 40 contracts...that rule wouldn't really apply to you.

I'm at 50 contracts right now too.

So, this is what it came to in the past, as a result of other CC members wanting to keep the 50 limit active in-season (for both trades AND new signings):

kyuss wroteCOLONSo, considering most want to keep the 50 contracts thing an in-season dynamic thing, this is imo the most effective way for us to resemble the whole NHL rules package on the related matters.

90 players owned max at roster submission and during the season

[ii] 50 contracts max (capgeek registered), with the following specifics:
- bbkl contract slide may be applied by GMs at roster submission to age 18 and age 19 players (i.e. not turned 20 yet) who have not played 11 NHL Games in their career yet.
- if a player with 0 NHL games gets signed during the season, his contract doesn't compute towards the 50 limit until his GM 'signs' him (for example through a post in the weekly lineup submission thread). Obviously such player can not be inserted into the active lineup without getting 'signed' first.
- if a player who already appeared in the NHL gets signed during the season, his contract counts towards the 50 limit from the moment his GM brings him up (something he is forced to do not to expose him to waivers if the player is a veteran)

[iii] No less than 24 Players and 3 goalkeepers under NHL contract (capgeek registered) at roster submission and during the season


this way (point ii), GMs are not penalized by in-season signings of players outside the NHL and CC is not forced to monitor all kinds of new signings and contracts counts, only needs to check when GMs 'sign' rookies or bring up just signed veterans.. so has to care about 'under the sun' situations instead of looking for hidden illegal situations.

Please point out if you have issues with this, as we need to make an announcement on the matter sooner rather than later.

kyuss wroteCOLON

Nick wroteCOLONseems to make sense to me, only change is in regards to an 18 or 19 year old signing, and our option to 'sign him' - correct?

optional slide at roster submission for already NHL signed 18-19yrs old with less than 11 NHL games, but also option not to activate prospects that have never touched the NHL if they are signed during the season.

That is a common situation late in the season (maybe even after our trade deadline), where juniors and college guys (even some euros recently) get signed by NHL teams but most of them have no chance to play in the NHL for the rest of the season (mostly AHL tastings).
The contract is instead computed if the player already saw action in the NHL, as that's a different kind of thing.

Pretty simple application:
- like waivers eligibility, age+#ofGP for roster submission slide
- automatic in-season slide unless/until GM's wants to make the prospect available

with the benefits of:
- resembling the whole NHL ruling on contracts
- giving control to GMs over in-season signings of prospects (DeKeyser or Forsberg were worthy of signing for example, even if eligible for in-season slide)
- easing CC's work

obv point [ii] is the one relevant here.

This stuff (ii and iii) never became official as one of the guys was in favour only if a dedicated column was added to the googledoc to automatically show the eligibility for the slide, something that didn't happen.
Not like it would really be necessary.

Today I still think it would work well and solve the issues mentioned in this thread, on top of being very similar to what the NHL does (all three points i, ii, iii were in fact derivative off the real NHL CBA).

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Lee wroteCOLONMake a thread, post in there which contracts are sliding. Edit main post to keep track. I volunteer to do this.

that sounds like no more work for all the GMs, and like we'd have a place we can reference.


I'll bring up in CC. I think we're at the point that we need to maintain or decrease the existing workload, not increase it - this seems to add no more work to the main core of GMs.

GMs would simply need to specify which players have contracts that 'slide' at roster submissions, and then during the season point out when they start using (hence, when they 'sign') a player that was not counted towards their 50 limit, be him
- a player with no NHL contract nor NHL games at roster submission
- a player already under NHL contract at roster submission but eligible for the slide (< 20yrs and 11 gp)

that means basically no added work for anyone (and actually, saves the CC from monitoring in-season signings and their implications)

Now how mike is able to adjust formulas to meet such windy requirements onto our spreadsheet...

From CapGeek, here's the up-to-minute slide risks:

Shea Theodore (ANA)
Brendan Perlini (ARI)
Max Domi (ARI)
David Pastrnak (BOS)
Sam Reinhart (BUF)
Nikita Zadorov (BUF)
Nicholas Baptiste (BUF)
William Carrier (BUF)
Sam Bennett (CGY)
Morgan Klimchuk (CGY)
Emile Poirier (CGY)
Keegan Kanzig (CGY)
Haydn Fleury (CAR)
Sergey Tolchinsky (CAR)
Ryan Hartman (CHI)
Chris Bigras (COL)
Kerby Rychel (CLB)
Oliver Bjorkstrand (CLB)
Julius Honka (DAL)
Jason Dickinson (DAL)
Philippe Desrosiers (DAL)
Anthony Mantha (DET)
Zach Nastasiuk (DET)
Leon Draisaitl (EDM)
Darnell Nurse (EDM)
Valentin Zykov (LA)
Jacob De La Rose (MON)
Nikita Scherbak (MON)
Michael McCarron (MON)
Zachary Fucale (MON)
Jeremy Gregoire (MON)
Kevin Fiala (NSH)
Jonathan-Ismael Diaby (NSH)
Ryan Pulock (NYI)
Ryan Graves (NYR)
Curtis Lazar (OTT)
Vincent Dunn (OTT)
Robert Hagg (PHI)
Samuel Morin (PHI)
Kaspari Kapanen (PIT)
Tristan Jarry (PIT)
Mirco Mueller (SJ)
Julius Bergman (SJ)
Ivan Barbashev (STL)
Thomas Vannelli (STL)
Jonathan Drouin (TB)
Adam Erne (TB)
William Nylander (TOR)
Frederik Gauthier (TOR)
Carter Verhaeghe (TOR)
Rinat Valiev (TOR)
Jake Virtanen (VAN)
Jared McCann (VAN)
Bo Horvat (VAN)
Hunter Shinkaruk (VAN)
Anton Cederholm (VAN)
Cole Cassels (VAN)
Jakub Vrana (WSH)
Andre Burakovsky (WSH)
Vitek Vanecek (WSH)
Madison Bowey (WSH)
Joshua Morrisey (WPG)
Nic Petan (WPG)
Eric Comrie (WPG)
Axel Blomqvist (WPG)

kimmer wroteCOLONNow how mike is able to adjust formulas to meet such windy requirements onto our spreadsheet...

if he wants to, he only needs to add a column similar to the one for waiver eligibility (the needed inputs, which are birth dates and NHL games played, are already there..)

Julius Honka...

Is that "oh yeah" ?