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Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:43 pm
by kimmer
If #8 is true, i dont know what to say about josh...
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:45 pm
by Robin Hood
gooker wroteCOLONIf #8 is true, i dont know what to say about josh...
100% true.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:49 pm
by Sensfanjosh
Hudler+Roy=Spezza....Raanta>Miller, especially given my teams makeup. I am also hit hard by injuries currently so moving my depth hurts me short term, and once Raanta's value increases as it seems likely to do especially given what has been said in this thread this looks even worse.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:50 pm
by CAM
Good post Shiv. Credit for the deep analogy. I can support this move based on your post!
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:51 pm
by Sensfanjosh
Also interesting you omitted your original offer of Brad Ross for Raanta? If his value has gone from a fair deal of Ross for Raanta 1-1 to Spezza over the course of a week I think I might be wise to hold onto him.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:51 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Josh makes a legit point.
We all have our reasons - no need to fret over rejections
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:53 pm
by CAM
Josh now has a bidding war over his goalie prospect who everyone now knows Shiv wants. However this shakes down, Shiv will get his man in the end but he is going to have one wide hole in his behind.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:54 pm
by Robin Hood
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONAlso interesting you omitted your original offer of Brad Ross for Raanta? If his value has gone from a fair deal of Ross for Raanta 1-1 to Spezza over the course of a week I think I might be wise to hold onto him.
Classic case of trying to get more when you already have a huge win.
Hudler + Roy is probably = to Spezza. But you received a terrific W in Drew Miller back (for those that don't know, check his h2h numbers. he is unreal).
Anyways, I didn't make the post to troll you. Just to post my reasons for the deal, one of which was your lack of willingness to trade Raanta (which could end up being right for all I know).
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:55 pm
by Robin Hood
CAM wroteCOLONJosh now has a bidding war over his goalie prospect who everyone now knows Shiv wants. However this shakes down, Shiv will get his man in the end but he is going to have one wide hole in his behind.
I don't need Raanta anymore lol. He's part of the CHI system
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:56 pm
by Sensfanjosh
You didn't mean to troll by saying I want an arm and a leg and posting your final offer? Why not post all of them if that's the case? And I see you omit the point I made wherein Miller is worth less than Raanta? Not saying Miller is bad, he does have nice h2h numbers but its not worth a potential 24 y.o. starting goaltender.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:57 pm
by Robin Hood
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONJosh makes a legit point.
We all have our reasons - no need to fret over rejections
I don't think it's fair to hide behind this excuse always when good deals are rejected.
If a deal of Spezza + Drew Miller for Derek Roy + Hudler was posted, there would not be a single person in this league that doesn't yell rape. Raanta does not change that.
Not to mention, Josh is a Sens fan.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:01 pm
by Robin Hood
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONYou didn't mean to troll by saying I want an arm and a leg and posting your final offer? Why not post all of them if that's the case? And I see you omit the point I made wherein Miller is worth less than Raanta? Not saying Miller is bad, he does have nice h2h numbers but its not worth a potential 24 y.o. starting goaltender.
I definitely didn't mean to troll. But you seem to have taken offence anyways.
I repeat, you could end up being right on Raanta. But for my team, losing more than the Spezza offer made no sense, because I believe I lost that deal. You don't, which is great. I don't care anymore as I don't own the CHI goalies. Deal with Shook now.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:02 pm
by The BBKL Insider
SuperMario wroteCOLONFair Deals Steve wroteCOLONJosh makes a legit point.
We all have our reasons - no need to fret over rejections
I don't think it's fair to hide behind this excuse always when good deals are rejected.
If a deal of Spezza + Drew Miller for Derek Roy + Hudler was posted, there would not be a single person in this league that doesn't yell rape. Raanta does not change that.
Not to mention, Josh is a Sens fan.
Good deals to some are bad deals for others - it goes back to stats and the type we're each built upon.
You may offer something completely fair, but cap, injuries and stats may dictate if that offer is accepted or not. This is a different year, a lot of factors go into accepting or rejecting offers.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:04 pm
by Robin Hood
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLONFair Deals Steve wroteCOLONJosh makes a legit point.
We all have our reasons - no need to fret over rejections
I don't think it's fair to hide behind this excuse always when good deals are rejected.
If a deal of Spezza + Drew Miller for Derek Roy + Hudler was posted, there would not be a single person in this league that doesn't yell rape. Raanta does not change that.
Not to mention, Josh is a Sens fan.
Good deals to some are bad deals for others - it goes back to stats and the type we're each built upon.
You may offer something completely fair, but cap, injuries and stats may dictate if that offer is accepted or not. This is a different year, a lot of factors go into accepting or rejecting offers.
I'm sorry, receiving #1C like Spezza without losing an additional skater is virtually impossible. I'm definitely not as diplomatic as you. I think Josh was stupid to reject that offer.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:11 pm
by The BBKL Insider
oh, i would have accepted it too, i'm just saying..we all have our reasons.
and that's the first time in my life i've been called dipolamtic
much thanks
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:12 pm
by Tony
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:13 pm
by Sensfanjosh
I think if you call me stupid more Shiv ill probably be more likely to accept your really good trade offers...
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:16 pm
by Robin Hood
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONI think if you call me stupid more Shiv ill probably be more likely to accept your really good trade offers...
I call it like it is. If you don't like it, tough. If you accepted that deal, I'd probably have called myself an idiot or stupid or worse in the thread that we posted in.
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:18 pm
by kimmer
Lol kk ftr i think sharp + purcell >>>> hudler + roy and i would do hudler roy for spezza in a second
Re: PIT/SJS Look Out West
PostedCOLON Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:19 pm
by Tony
Well there you have it ... gooker aporoved