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Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:40 pm
by kimmer
So we gonna punish him for having 2.75M of unaccounted cap space for 3 wks? CC?
I mean, Scott has the assets tab automated so that as soon as u enter the last name, the players correct database shows up. He has no excuse here. He blatantly spelt it this way to get 2.75 of space and not have to waive anyone. Anyone not find this strange that he voluntarily posts innocence on why he "cant figure out why the caps not working"?
Fwiw, i have the screen cap where it shows him spelling it Eric Haula with no cap value on the IR cell if need to be provided
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:02 pm
by CasperX22
kimmer wroteCOLONSo we gonna punish him for having 2.75M of unaccounted cap space for 3 wks? CC?
I mean, Scott has the assets tab automated so that as soon as u enter the last name, the players correct database shows up. He has no excuse here. He blatantly spelt it this way to get 2.75 of space and not have to waive anyone. Anyone not find this strange that he voluntarily posts innocence on why he "cant figure out why the caps not working"?
Fwiw, i have the screen cap where it shows him spelling it Eric Haula with no cap value on the IR cell if need to be provided
I'm curious how Hornqvist was eligible to be LTIR as well when he literally only missed 3 whole games.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:06 pm
by The BBKL Insider
CasperX22 wroteCOLONkimmer wroteCOLONSo we gonna punish him for having 2.75M of unaccounted cap space for 3 wks? CC?
I mean, Scott has the assets tab automated so that as soon as u enter the last name, the players correct database shows up. He has no excuse here. He blatantly spelt it this way to get 2.75 of space and not have to waive anyone. Anyone not find this strange that he voluntarily posts innocence on why he "cant figure out why the caps not working"?
Fwiw, i have the screen cap where it shows him spelling it Eric Haula with no cap value on the IR cell if need to be provided
I'm curious how Hornqvist was eligible to be LTIR as well when he literally only missed 3 whole games.
Then claims Matt Hendricks. I will take him now, as I was the only other person to claim him when he was on waivers.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:43 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLONkimmer wroteCOLONSo we gonna punish him for having 2.75M of unaccounted cap space for 3 wks? CC?
I mean, Scott has the assets tab automated so that as soon as u enter the last name, the players correct database shows up. He has no excuse here. He blatantly spelt it this way to get 2.75 of space and not have to waive anyone. Anyone not find this strange that he voluntarily posts innocence on why he "cant figure out why the caps not working"?
Fwiw, i have the screen cap where it shows him spelling it Eric Haula with no cap value on the IR cell if need to be provided
I'm curious how Hornqvist was eligible to be LTIR as well when he literally only missed 3 whole games.
This is allowed as no one can guess hownlongbabplayer will be out.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:44 pm
by Matthew
kimmer wroteCOLONSo we gonna punish him for having 2.75M of unaccounted cap space for 3 wks? CC?
I mean, Scott has the assets tab automated so that as soon as u enter the last name, the players correct database shows up. He has no excuse here. He blatantly spelt it this way to get 2.75 of space and not have to waive anyone. Anyone not find this strange that he voluntarily posts innocence on why he "cant figure out why the caps not working"?
Fwiw, i have the screen cap where it shows him spelling it Eric Haula with no cap value on the IR cell if need to be provided
This does seem odd. It seems odd because he was fighting so hard to get scandella on ltir for 3 weeks before the season, and it was rejected, and this just happens to save him cap. Would this have put him over the maximum cap limit?
But to be clear, I'm clueless.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:50 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONkimmer wroteCOLONSo we gonna punish him for having 2.75M of unaccounted cap space for 3 wks? CC?
I mean, Scott has the assets tab automated so that as soon as u enter the last name, the players correct database shows up. He has no excuse here. He blatantly spelt it this way to get 2.75 of space and not have to waive anyone. Anyone not find this strange that he voluntarily posts innocence on why he "cant figure out why the caps not working"?
Fwiw, i have the screen cap where it shows him spelling it Eric Haula with no cap value on the IR cell if need to be provided
I'm curious how Hornqvist was eligible to be LTIR as well when he literally only missed 3 whole games.
This is allowed as no one can guess hownlongbabplayer will be out.
He was literally on the ice 2 days later. Seemed pretty clear according to reports at the time that he was getting close to coming back. I think providing a link to an actual article rather than a fantrax update isn't too much to ask. Definitely an exploitation of a gray area.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:53 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLONMatthew wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONkimmer wroteCOLONSo we gonna punish him for having 2.75M of unaccounted cap space for 3 wks? CC?
I mean, Scott has the assets tab automated so that as soon as u enter the last name, the players correct database shows up. He has no excuse here. He blatantly spelt it this way to get 2.75 of space and not have to waive anyone. Anyone not find this strange that he voluntarily posts innocence on why he "cant figure out why the caps not working"?
Fwiw, i have the screen cap where it shows him spelling it Eric Haula with no cap value on the IR cell if need to be provided
I'm curious how Hornqvist was eligible to be LTIR as well when he literally only missed 3 whole games.
This is allowed as no one can guess hownlongbabplayer will be out.
He was literally on the ice 2 days later. Seemed pretty clear according to reports at the time that he was getting close to coming back. I think providing a link to an actual article rather than a fantrax update isn't too much to ask.
Definitely an exploitation of a gray area.
Mik likes to do that
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:54 pm
by Lee
Oh hey look. Mik doing more shady shit. I can't wait for him not to be punished for it again.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:54 pm
by CasperX22
Speaking of gray areas, what is the rule on using actual rosters players that would be subject to waivers as LTIR relief on a teams initial roster submission? Considering Vancouver is using like 18 mil in LTIR relief from waiver eligible players.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:59 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLONSpeaking of gray areas, what is the rule on using actual rosters players that would be subject to waivers as LTIR relief on a teams initial roster submission? Considering Vancouver is using like 18 mil in LTIR relief from waiver eligible players.
Why not? He is using 2 players that will never play again for no reason. All it does it take up 2 contracts spots. Probably hurts him tbh.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:03 pm
by Loki
CasperX22 wroteCOLONHe was literally on the ice 2 days later. Seemed pretty clear according to reports at the time that he was getting close to coming back. I think providing a link to an actual article rather than a fantrax update isn't too much to ask. Definitely an exploitation of a gray area.
For reference, he was skating on his own 2 days before the season opener, rejoined team practice 3 days after the opener
https://twitter.com/penguins/status/914864561349693441
https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/hornq ... -291681650
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:07 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONSpeaking of gray areas, what is the rule on using actual rosters players that would be subject to waivers as LTIR relief on a teams initial roster submission? Considering Vancouver is using like 18 mil in LTIR relief from waiver eligible players.
Why not? He is using 2 players that will never play again for no reason. All it does it take up 2 contracts spots. Probably hurts him tbh.
So you don't see a problem with being able to artificially go over the salary cap and not place any of those waiver eligible players through waivers? Why not just waive those guys? Bc it's obviously advantageous to keep them and designate any player you like as relief without having to pass anyone through waivers.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:08 pm
by foofnik
CasperX22 wroteCOLONSpeaking of gray areas, what is the rule on using actual rosters players that would be subject to waivers as LTIR relief on a teams initial roster submission? Considering Vancouver is using like 18 mil in LTIR relief from waiver eligible players.
I asked CC myself on Sekera before the season and was told that to start the season you can use any player since there are no waivers so you can send down and call up anyone so to speak. But after submission/week 1 it's exempt or newly acquired only.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:09 pm
by Matthew
CasperX22 wroteCOLONMatthew wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONSpeaking of gray areas, what is the rule on using actual rosters players that would be subject to waivers as LTIR relief on a teams initial roster submission? Considering Vancouver is using like 18 mil in LTIR relief from waiver eligible players.
Why not? He is using 2 players that will never play again for no reason. All it does it take up 2 contracts spots. Probably hurts him tbh.
So you don't see a problem with being able to artificially go over the salary cap and not place any of those waiver eligible players through waivers? Why not just waive those guys? Bc it's obviously advantageous to keep them and designate any player you like as relief without having to pass anyone through waivers.
Well if they are injured long term then I see nothing wrong. If hey eventually do come off ltir then that person will need to do something about it. If not, then they stay on ltir and are useless.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:10 pm
by Matthew
Shit. Nevermind. I think I read this wrong.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:17 pm
by CasperX22
foofnik wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONSpeaking of gray areas, what is the rule on using actual rosters players that would be subject to waivers as LTIR relief on a teams initial roster submission? Considering Vancouver is using like 18 mil in LTIR relief from waiver eligible players.
I asked CC myself on Sekera before the season and was told that to start the season you can use any player since there are no waivers so you can send down and call up anyone so to speak. But after submission/week 1 it's exempt or newly acquired only.
This seems totally backwards. So we are using the NHL standard after week 1, but not for roster submission. What if you used waiver eligible guys on the initial submission, are they still eligible as LTIR relief after week 1? Literally makes zero sense why you would do that lol!
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:48 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLONShit. Nevermind. I think I read this wrong.
I mean if you need a refresher in how LTIR is supposed to work...
https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq
Clearly how its being used is not correct in this instance if we are close resembling how the NHL uses it as Josh was apparently told it is to be used after week 1.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:27 am
by foofnik
CasperX22 wroteCOLONMatthew wroteCOLONShit. Nevermind. I think I read this wrong.
I mean if you need a refresher in how LTIR is supposed to work...
https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq
Clearly how its being used is not correct in this instance if we are close resembling how the NHL uses it as Josh was apparently told it is to be used after week 1.
I mean the only advantage in my case of using Petry is that it buys me time to open cap space for Sekera, I wasn't under the gun before submission. When he comes back I obviously have to fit him in somehow. It's a bit different for the LTIR guys like Pronger or Horton though.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:31 am
by koomzzz
CasperX22 wroteCOLONfoofnik wroteCOLONCasperX22 wroteCOLONSpeaking of gray areas, what is the rule on using actual rosters players that would be subject to waivers as LTIR relief on a teams initial roster submission? Considering Vancouver is using like 18 mil in LTIR relief from waiver eligible players.
I asked CC myself on Sekera before the season and was told that to start the season you can use any player since there are no waivers so you can send down and call up anyone so to speak. But after submission/week 1 it's exempt or newly acquired only.
This seems totally backwards. So we are using the NHL standard after week 1, but not for roster submission. What if you used waiver eligible guys on the initial submission, are they still eligible as LTIR relief after week 1? Literally makes zero sense why you would do that lol!
I had this issue last year with Grabovski. Was out all year, I was able to use waiver eligible players as cap relief from the start of the season and through the whole seaosn because obviously Grabovski never came back. Didn't make sense to me but that's what i was told the rule was so I used it.
Re: 2017-18 BBKL Google Sheets
PostedCOLON Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:07 am
by Handsome&FairMike
Didn’t read all of this so correct me if I missed something but I don’t see an issue using waiver eligible players for cap relief, as if the injured player comes back you are forced to make a trade or roster move to accommodate the cap. Also you can trade for a player who isn’t waiver eligible to use up the LTIR cap space as well so I don’t see the difference.
Is this different in the NHL - I.e. does horton’s And lupul’s money have to be used by waiver eligible players??