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Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:38 am
by lightupdadarkness
KapG wroteCOLONMe disliking the deal has nothing to do with mike landing him.

Has to do with the return. I wasn't a fan of mikes offer from the start.

Why didn't u take Mathews deal? I know why ;).....it was fake and all a ploy to get people to try and up their offers :P
In all honestly there were pieces of that deal I wasn't too crazy about so but yeah lol

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:00 am
by KapG
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLON
KapG wroteCOLONMe disliking the deal has nothing to do with mike landing him.

Has to do with the return. I wasn't a fan of mikes offer from the start.

Why didn't u take Mathews deal? I know why ;).....it was fake and all a ploy to get people to try and up their offers :P
In all honestly there were pieces of that deal I wasn't too crazy about so but yeah lol
I do hope this works out for you in the long run.

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:04 am
by lightupdadarkness
KapG wroteCOLON
lightupdadarkness wroteCOLON
KapG wroteCOLONMe disliking the deal has nothing to do with mike landing him.

Has to do with the return. I wasn't a fan of mikes offer from the start.

Why didn't u take Mathews deal? I know why ;).....it was fake and all a ploy to get people to try and up their offers :P
In all honestly there were pieces of that deal I wasn't too crazy about so but yeah lol
I do hope this works out for you in the long run.
Believe me I do too lol

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:22 pm
by Matthew
Would be funny if mcdavid busted and was like a 35 point guy with a bad back after reading this thread.

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:24 pm
by lightupdadarkness
Poor Eric Bryan Lindros

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:42 pm
by CasperX22
Matthew wroteCOLONWould be funny if mcdavid busted and was like a 35 point guy with a bad back after reading this thread.
Would certainly be a lot of guys walking with their tails between their legs.

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:48 pm
by Tony
I've never wished for someone to bust as much as this kid. Fuck EDM.

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:56 pm
by CAM
Tony wroteCOLONI've never wished for someone to bust as much as this kid. Fuck EDM.
I feel the same way. Only way my mind would change is if the entire front office of EDM was gutted before making the actual selection and see what a system and personnel change would do.

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:03 am
by Sensfanjosh
So this becomes....

To TOR:
2015 1st Rounder (DAL)

To OTT:
2015 3rd Rounder (CBJ)
Nail Yakupov
2015 2nd Rounder 9PIT)

To DAL:
2015 1st Rounder (CGY)
2015 1st Rounder (CHI)
2016 1st Rounder (CAR)
2016 1st Rounder (VAN)
Torey Krug
Michael Del Zotto
Matt Nieto
Josh Ho-Sang
Chris Bigras
Emile Poirier

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:07 am
by Handsome&FairMike
still a solid haul but no all-stars coming to Dal

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:05 am
by kimmer
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONSo this becomes....

To TOR:
2015 1st Rounder (DAL)

To OTT:
2015 3rd Rounder (CBJ)
Nail Yakupov
2015 2nd Rounder 9PIT)

To DAL:
2015 1st Rounder (CGY)
2015 1st Rounder (CHI)
2016 1st Rounder (CAR)
2016 1st Rounder (VAN)
Torey Krug
Michael Del Zotto
Matt Nieto
Josh Ho-Sang
Chris Bigras
Emile Poirier
Lol yep. Horrible

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:12 am
by Lee
Meh , I can't say much. I once traded the pick that became RNH for Olesz and Ollie Jokinen

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:41 am
by The BBKL Insider
i liked the deal until he traded away Yak

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:04 am
by KapG
Even though I'm not a fan, I have seen worse lol. Shit, I've probably made worse trades!

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:23 am
by Nick
Pretty unfair to say no stars in this group.
2015 1st Rounder (CGY)
2015 1st Rounder (CHI)
2016 1st Rounder (CAR)
2016 1st Rounder (VAN)
Torey Krug
Michael Del Zotto
Matt Nieto
Josh Ho-Sang
Chris Bigras
Emile Poirier
First off those 1st rounders are of a wide potential outcome. Picks like Perry, Kopitar, Bergeron all come from non-top 5 spots. 2ndly, Ho-Sang could easily be a top line player, Krug is an elite offensive d-man, and the other guys are all worthwhile bbklers. You won't win here with 2-3 pieces. It takes a team of contributing guys to contend (remember, I had Stamkos, G & Sid, with Weber, and was twice a first round exit).

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:36 am
by Shoalzie
The idea of moving the pick made sense in that one player wouldn't help him as much it would to get multiple assets. He took over a gutted roster. He's got some good young players but next to nothing in terms of NHL veterans. To just add McDavid to that lineup isn't going to make a big difference to his team. He's got multiple attractive pieces that might not have McDavid's potential but as a collective group could pay off.

The unfortunate thing for him is that he wasn't going to be able to take advantage of having a player like him on his roster considering he had very little around him. If he wants to continue to build and progress, you need more than just one guy. I might have a situation down the road where I may have to move a guy like Ekblad because getting multiple pieces helps me more than just keeping the one player.

Every GM at the bottom of the league will run into the dilemma of do I keep my franchise player or does it help me more if I move them for assets that will make me a better team overall. It really all depends on how patient you are and if you've got a good pipeline of talent. In Dallas' case, he needs 10 assets more than he needs one.

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:56 am
by Mike
What's the most a single asset has ever gone for in the BBKL? Has Sid Crosby ever been traded for more?

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:06 am
by KapG
Quality > quantity mike!!

It was really krug and yak and a bunch of Meh firsts. Value wise, I have to think that there have been a bunch of trades made over the years that would top this.

No I'm not going to go look up any :P.

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:16 am
by The BBKL Insider
Mike wroteCOLONWhat's the most a single asset has ever gone for in the BBKL? Has Sid Crosby ever been traded for more?
i once traded something stupid for sid

something like Dustin Brown + 3 other players equal to Brown

Re: DAL-TOR

PostedCOLON Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:47 pm
by Bruyns
Nick wroteCOLON It takes a team of contributing guys to contend (remember, I had Stamkos, G & Sid, with Weber, and was twice a first round exit).
+1

I've seen lots of examples in fantasy leagues of GMs giving up a lot for star players and ending up with a top heavy roster with 4-6 elite pieces surrounded by a bunch of below average players. It's not a recipe for success and it's the teams with a roster full of good contributing players that usually have success.

I wouldn't have traded Yak though