Evgeny Kuznetsov on the block

[kyuss]

I never said anything about declining. I said his rate stats have likely peaked.

yup man ok, not even 60 pts player, at 25 with 3 NHL seasons under the belt he's clearly done growing and won't even go back producing what he did in the past

[Matthew]

If you guys don't want him then don't offer on him. No need to tear down other people's players publicly.

[CasperX22]

Wow no love eh Casperxx

I'm in talks for Kuzy ATM

He's a good player, but he is incredibly overrated and now way overpaid. Paying a 5-5.5m player 8m a year.

[Lee]

Interested. Send me an offer.

[CasperX22]

If you guys don't want him then don't offer on him. No need to tear down other people's players publicly.

It's Mik. It's allowed.

[cliff11]

Wow no love eh Casperxx

I'm in talks for Kuzy ATM

He's a good player, but he is incredibly overrated and now way overpaid. Paying a 5-5.5m player 8m a year.

He's for sure over paid a little bit

IMO he's in between 6-7 A year

Is he a true number one C ..... no

Is he a number 2 C ..... no he's better than that

IMO he's a good player not a number one C and better than a number 2 C

[CasperX22]

Wow no love eh Casperxx

I'm in talks for Kuzy ATM

He's a good player, but he is incredibly overrated and now way overpaid. Paying a 5-5.5m player 8m a year.

He's for sure over paid a little bit

IMO he's in between 6-7 A year

Is he a true number one C ..... no

Is he a number 2 C ..... no he's better than that

IMO he's a good player not a number one C and better than a number 2 C

If you agree that he is not a true #1 center, why in the world would you think he is worth 6-7m? I'm not following that logic.

[cliff11]

Because if the cap increase number two C's are making between 6-7million (I don't think I need to make a list )

[CasperX22]

That's a big if. And even so if it comes to that there will be another lockout. Most good #2's are locked into the 4-5 range right now. Literally the only reason the Capitals gave Kuznetsov as much as they did is because they were afraid if they didn't pay him like a #1 he would bolt for Russia. Seeing as they are all in for 1-2 more cup runs they couldn't allow that to happen.

[cliff11]

The cap has already increased man, the list of 2 C is quite big

I'll agree with you that he's over payed but not as much as you are making it out to be

[CasperX22]

And I'm sure Mik's asking price on him is the price of an elite #1 center. And his new contract makes him the 21st highest paid player in the NHL and that includes guys like Rick Nash and Joe Thornton who should come off that list next year. Yes not 21st highest paid center, but 21st highest paid player in the entire NHL. If Rakell+a likely top 5 pick isnt enough for Mik, I shudder to think what he is actually asking for. That alone is really overpayment.

[kimmer]

He stated to me that there r offers much better than this on the table currently. So i will not be shocked to see one posted in due time

[kimmer]

Just read the thread. It will likely be cliff that pays up for kuz lol

[kyuss]

He stated to me that there r offers much better than this on the table currently. So i will not be shocked to see one posted in due time

much better than what you offered, which is Rakell + 2nd CAR 2019....

[timwebb1212]

I'd like to know which are the 30 better than him centermen in the league

Crosby
McDavid
Malkin
Tavares
Backstrom
Scheifele
Seguin
Getzlaf
Matthews
Giroux
Kesler
Bergeron
Toews
Kopitar
Johansen
Carter
Stamkos
Barkov
Eichel
ROR
Couture

That's 21 I think are indisputably better, then guys you could make an argument for:
E. Staal
J. Staal
Kadri
Koivu
Stepan
Backlund
Krejci
Monahan
Thornton
Spezza
Zetterberg
Duchene
Turris
Little
Trocheck



So no, I don't think he's a clear-cut #1. You could make an argument, but IMO he's clearly one of those borderline 1/2s

[Sensfanjosh]

I'd take Kuz over Kesler Carter Barkov Couture the Staals Kadri Stephan Backlund and probably a few others myself

[CasperX22]

I'd take Kuz over Kesler Carter Barkov Couture the Staals Kadri Stephan Backlund and probably a few others myself

That's crazy talk. The only advantage Kuzy has over most of those guys is his age.

[CasperX22]

And in terms of bbkl value, Id take most of those guys over Kuzy as well starting with Trocheck who is significantly more valuable at a much cheaper cap hit.

[Sensfanjosh]

Age is a factor absolutely who builds a team without considering it...

[CasperX22]

Age is a factor absolutely who builds a team without considering it...

So you giving up Toews+Weber at a discount based on age and cap hit?