PIT/SJS Look Out West

[kimmer]

If #8 is true, i dont know what to say about josh...

[Robin Hood]

If #8 is true, i dont know what to say about josh...

100% true.

[Sensfanjosh]

Hudler+Roy=Spezza....Raanta>Miller, especially given my teams makeup. I am also hit hard by injuries currently so moving my depth hurts me short term, and once Raanta's value increases as it seems likely to do especially given what has been said in this thread this looks even worse.

[CAM]

Good post Shiv. Credit for the deep analogy. I can support this move based on your post!

[Sensfanjosh]

Also interesting you omitted your original offer of Brad Ross for Raanta? If his value has gone from a fair deal of Ross for Raanta 1-1 to Spezza over the course of a week I think I might be wise to hold onto him.

[The BBKL Insider]

Josh makes a legit point.

We all have our reasons - no need to fret over rejections

[CAM]

Josh now has a bidding war over his goalie prospect who everyone now knows Shiv wants. However this shakes down, Shiv will get his man in the end but he is going to have one wide hole in his behind.

[Robin Hood]

Also interesting you omitted your original offer of Brad Ross for Raanta? If his value has gone from a fair deal of Ross for Raanta 1-1 to Spezza over the course of a week I think I might be wise to hold onto him.

Classic case of trying to get more when you already have a huge win.

Hudler + Roy is probably = to Spezza. But you received a terrific W in Drew Miller back (for those that don't know, check his h2h numbers. he is unreal).

Anyways, I didn't make the post to troll you. Just to post my reasons for the deal, one of which was your lack of willingness to trade Raanta (which could end up being right for all I know).

[Robin Hood]

Josh now has a bidding war over his goalie prospect who everyone now knows Shiv wants. However this shakes down, Shiv will get his man in the end but he is going to have one wide hole in his behind.

I don't need Raanta anymore lol. He's part of the CHI system

[Sensfanjosh]

You didn't mean to troll by saying I want an arm and a leg and posting your final offer? Why not post all of them if that's the case? And I see you omit the point I made wherein Miller is worth less than Raanta? Not saying Miller is bad, he does have nice h2h numbers but its not worth a potential 24 y.o. starting goaltender.

[Robin Hood]

Josh makes a legit point.

We all have our reasons - no need to fret over rejections

I don't think it's fair to hide behind this excuse always when good deals are rejected.

If a deal of Spezza + Drew Miller for Derek Roy + Hudler was posted, there would not be a single person in this league that doesn't yell rape. Raanta does not change that.

Not to mention, Josh is a Sens fan.

[Robin Hood]

You didn't mean to troll by saying I want an arm and a leg and posting your final offer? Why not post all of them if that's the case? And I see you omit the point I made wherein Miller is worth less than Raanta? Not saying Miller is bad, he does have nice h2h numbers but its not worth a potential 24 y.o. starting goaltender.

I definitely didn't mean to troll. But you seem to have taken offence anyways.

I repeat, you could end up being right on Raanta. But for my team, losing more than the Spezza offer made no sense, because I believe I lost that deal. You don't, which is great. I don't care anymore as I don't own the CHI goalies. Deal with Shook now.

[The BBKL Insider]

Josh makes a legit point.

We all have our reasons - no need to fret over rejections

I don't think it's fair to hide behind this excuse always when good deals are rejected.

If a deal of Spezza + Drew Miller for Derek Roy + Hudler was posted, there would not be a single person in this league that doesn't yell rape. Raanta does not change that.

Not to mention, Josh is a Sens fan.

Good deals to some are bad deals for others - it goes back to stats and the type we're each built upon.

You may offer something completely fair, but cap, injuries and stats may dictate if that offer is accepted or not. This is a different year, a lot of factors go into accepting or rejecting offers.

[Robin Hood]

Josh makes a legit point.

We all have our reasons - no need to fret over rejections

I don't think it's fair to hide behind this excuse always when good deals are rejected.

If a deal of Spezza + Drew Miller for Derek Roy + Hudler was posted, there would not be a single person in this league that doesn't yell rape. Raanta does not change that.

Not to mention, Josh is a Sens fan.

Good deals to some are bad deals for others - it goes back to stats and the type we're each built upon.

You may offer something completely fair, but cap, injuries and stats may dictate if that offer is accepted or not. This is a different year, a lot of factors go into accepting or rejecting offers.

I'm sorry, receiving #1C like Spezza without losing an additional skater is virtually impossible. I'm definitely not as diplomatic as you. I think Josh was stupid to reject that offer.

[The BBKL Insider]

oh, i would have accepted it too, i'm just saying..we all have our reasons.

and that's the first time in my life i've been called dipolamtic

much thanks

[Tony]

[Sensfanjosh]

I think if you call me stupid more Shiv ill probably be more likely to accept your really good trade offers...

[Robin Hood]

I think if you call me stupid more Shiv ill probably be more likely to accept your really good trade offers...

I call it like it is. If you don't like it, tough. If you accepted that deal, I'd probably have called myself an idiot or stupid or worse in the thread that we posted in.

[kimmer]

Lol kk ftr i think sharp + purcell >>>> hudler + roy and i would do hudler roy for spezza in a second

[Tony]

Well there you have it ... gooker aporoved