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I'm still kind of shocked.

Coming from someone who had no interest in moving the hoff
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i'm glad AA just said he didn't plan to flip Tulo for a RP or SP

"we dont want to take from our core"
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Let's be real here. A package built around Hoffman+Castro could have beat the Royals offer for Cueto. Reyes+Cueto or Tulo?
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Too much for a few months of Cueto
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you resign him. Problem solved. Not like Toronto can't afford to.
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CasperX22 wroteCOLONyou resign him. Problem solved. Not like Toronto can't afford to.
no one wants to sign in Toronto
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CasperX22 wroteCOLONLet's be real here. A package built around Hoffman+Castro could have beat the Royals offer for Cueto. Reyes+Cueto or Tulo?
Tulo and it's easy.

We have him for 5 more years...

Cueto has an elbow that has tons of mileage on it too.
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CasperX22 wroteCOLONyou resign him. Problem solved. Not like Toronto can't afford to.
There are very good odds that say he would sign elsewhere.

Also, if we are going to resign him why not just get tulo and sign cueto in the offseason? We have 2-3 more years to compete here is like to think
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The BBKL Insider wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONyou resign him. Problem solved. Not like Toronto can't afford to.
no one wants to sign in Toronto
Money talks.
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KapG wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONyou resign him. Problem solved. Not like Toronto can't afford to.
There are very good odds that say he would sign elsewhere.

Also, if we are going to resign him why not just get tulo and sign cueto in the offseason? We have 2-3 more years to compete here is like to think
Because you likely don't have a shot at getting him as a FA. If you trade for him, make a run, and show a willingness to commit to him he probably sticks around.
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KapG wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONLet's be real here. A package built around Hoffman+Castro could have beat the Royals offer for Cueto. Reyes+Cueto or Tulo?
Tulo and it's easy.

We have him for 5 more years...

Cueto has an elbow that has tons of mileage on it too.
Its really not. Tulo has a lot of milage on bum knees. Playing on turf is not going to help that.
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CasperX22 wroteCOLON
KapG wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONLet's be real here. A package built around Hoffman+Castro could have beat the Royals offer for Cueto. Reyes+Cueto or Tulo?
Tulo and it's easy.

We have him for 5 more years...

Cueto has an elbow that has tons of mileage on it too.
Its really not. Tulo has a lot of milage on bum knees. Playing on turf is not going to help that.
That turf is as close to real gas as you can get. it as re-engineered in the offseason.
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CasperX22 wroteCOLON
KapG wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONLet's be real here. A package built around Hoffman+Castro could have beat the Royals offer for Cueto. Reyes+Cueto or Tulo?
Tulo and it's easy.

We have him for 5 more years...

Cueto has an elbow that has tons of mileage on it too.
Its really not. Tulo has a lot of milage on bum knees. Playing on turf is not going to help that.
Lots of players saying the new turf is actually quite soft. Also talks about jays getting grass soon too.

His bat is also so elite that we can plug him in at 1st base if those bum knees you speak of get to a point where they are affecting his mobility at ss
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Moving him to a different position pretty much negates what makes him one of the best players in baseball. Can he hit well enough to justify playing there? Yes, but you also just gave up a really good roster player+2 top prospects to get him. Not that Tulo isn't a worthwhile risk, but you guys blew your wad at the deadline on a player you didn't need and failed to address the largest weakness on the team. This has just as much chance to blow up in their faces as it does of working out.
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Why do you think Tulo has bum knees? He hasn't had a history of knee injuries so that doesn't make a lot of sense.
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sportsnet asked an exec with the jays

"are you guys done"

he replied

"**** no, this may not even be the biggest deal we make"


sounds like the jays should be fun to watch the rest of the season!
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CasperX22 wroteCOLONgave up a really good roster player
That's arguable, his defence has been so bad that people have been clamoring for Goins to be used as a defensive replacement in late innings. He is good, but at this point in his career adding the really is questionable. Jays also aren't out of prospects and it's too early to judge them and say they didn't address their weak position when the trade deadline hasn't passed. Hawkins and adding Sanchez to the bullpen hopefully shores up one of their perceived weaknesses.
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Reyes at this point is more of a spark plug for the team (positive motivator) than an actually contributor.

Great trade, i'm pumped for the next deal
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CasperX22 wroteCOLONMoving him to a different position pretty much negates what makes him one of the best players in baseball. Can he hit well enough to justify playing there? Yes, but you also just gave up a really good roster player+2 top prospects to get him. Not that Tulo isn't a worthwhile risk, but you guys blew your wad at the deadline on a player you didn't need and failed to address the largest weakness on the team. This has just as much chance to blow up in their faces as it does of working out.
Agree with this, really strange trade imo. I get that Tulo is an elite SS but how long he plays that position remains to be seen, and like you said moving him to 1b might make sense but kinda reduces his value in that a 1b with his number isn't as difficult to acquire and doesn't justify the price tag. Gotta think this sets up a trade of Edwin though probably to add a SP or RP, Jays also got Chamberlin off waiver recently so perhaps he can find his form and contribute to the bullpen leaving only a decent SP or two as needs for the team. In a vacuum I like the deal for the Jays though as it does clear up a lot of money, just given the situation as a whole I'm fairly puzzled
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Fwiw I'm not saying you move tulo to first now or even 3 years from now. It's just an option...

Also, I wasn't aware we blew our wad here. That's news to me.
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