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Postby Mike » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:59 pm

KapG wrote:all done and up to date. sorry Mikey


yay

kimmer wrote:Hey I have a question...

Billy and I have been using non-waiver exempt guys as LTIR replacements time to time... is this ok?...lol


I'd need more details, but most likely not ok. Were you aware that you might be breaking rules and not asking anyone?

The only people that can be used as LTIR replacements are those who were not previously on your roster (players from the minors, FA signings, and players you traded for).
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby kimmer » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:05 pm

of course I didn't know I was breaking rules lol
but I only recently come across mik making a post somewhere saying that REL's are to be waiver-exempt players, so when I checked I was like fuck I haven't been doing that lol

I guess I will be removed from BBKL, sry all
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Postby tyler » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:22 pm

I've done the same in the past, 1 year ++ ago.
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby Tony » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:23 pm

That'll be a 7th, sir
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby Sensfanjosh » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:24 pm

I suppose I'm also guilty was not aware of this rule.
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby kimmer » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:32 pm

remove all of us

thx
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Postby Arian The Insider » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:34 pm

i thought the rule was that replacements could be waiver eligible players but they'd have to stay on the roster after the LTIR player is reactivated or else they'd be subject to waivers as regular.

didn't do it anyways

fine them all!
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby Sensfanjosh » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:38 pm

That was my understanding as well Arian, you can't not waive waiver eligible guys to get back under the cap once I player is healthy, but otherwise the replacements could be named without regard to status.
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby kimmer » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:40 pm

Mike clear this up for us?
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby Bruyns » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:49 pm

That was my understanding too.

Lets say an NHL team is at the cap and place a player on LTIR they then call up someone from their AHL team as relief. When the player returns the team must then become cap compliant again by either sending a waiver exempt player down or waiving a player so long as enough salary is off the books to activate the injured player again.
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby Mike » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:12 pm

The player simply can't already be on your roster. If I have a player on my roster I want to use as a replacement I will send him down and recall him. If he's waiver eligible I won't do that as I'd lose him on waivers on the way down.
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby kimmer » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:14 pm

lol so how are you gonna punish me
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby Arian The Insider » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:17 pm

kimmer wrote:lol so how are you gonna punish me

this sounds like an intro to a porno
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby kimmer » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:40 pm

Either way....

If you would look at my spreadsheet, only weeks 3 and 4 should be trouble weeks, where I would be over the cap ceiling had I not put Clitsome on LTIR and just on short term IR; other weeks are completely cap compliant even if Clitsome would not have been on LTIR. So not sure if you wanna just punish me for the weeks 3 and 4 and chalk it up as warning or what. I've never done this before I don't think, so... pm me what u would like to do thxx
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby Tony » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:47 pm

Don't think there should be punishment. Clearly there was confusion with the rule by multiple GMs. Make an official update on wording and everyone will be on notice.
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby dave1959 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:59 pm

Mike wrote:The player simply can't already be on your roster. If I have a player on my roster I want to use as a replacement I will send him down and recall him. If he's waiver eligible I won't do that as I'd lose him on waivers on the way down.



I don't get this. If he's already on your roster, why would you have to put the guy on LTIR....only IR.
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby kimmer » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:02 pm

Cuz I wanted to save cap space by assigning dudes as cap relief... And just thought I could pick up to 3 guys on my roster that could be used to relieve the said player going on LTIR
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby kimmer » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:03 pm

If weeks 1 2 5 6 7 were ok cap-wise without having clitsome on LTIR, I don't even know why I put him on it... I was stupid either way.
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Postby Sensfanjosh » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:36 pm

So just to be clear if I want to put an NHL player on LTIR I can only use waiver exempt players for his cap otherwise I'm going to lose all my players to waivers? This seems needlessly complex and not really at all in line with real NHL practice, not to mention it doesn't really make sense.
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Re: Announcement thread discussion

Postby tyler » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:41 pm

I've been using my on roster players for cap exemption. I think this conversation was about call ups from the minors for LTIR replacement on your roster, or am i mistaken.
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