LAK - DET

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LAK - DET

Postby The BBKL Insider » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:05 am

To Los Angeles:
Tomas Hertl
Colton Point
2018 2nd Rounder (CGY)

To Detroit:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
2019 3rd Rounder (LA)
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Shoalzie » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:40 am

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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Shoalzie » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:45 am

Hertl has been strong this year but I need a little extra from my #2 center spot since I can't seem to keep a healthy #4 in the lineup for very long. Hertl's cheap contract is up after this year and I can afford to take on the extra hit from Nugent-Hopkins. Hopefully he continues his strong 2-way play. Also needed a boost in faceoffs.
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby kyuss » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:07 am

considering the difference in salary and the marginal upgrade not sure there was a need for a significant add on Hertl.. hopefully Point doesn't become the goalie Scott will need in the future when Smith's time is up
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby lightupdadarkness » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:13 am

kyuss wrote:considering the difference in salary and the marginal upgrade not sure there was a need for a significant add on Hertl.. hopefully Point doesn't become the goalie Scott will need in the future when Smith's time is up
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby kimmer » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:25 am

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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Da_Hawks » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:38 am

RNH has the better nickname. Never bet against the NUGE!!! Nice trade for both teams.
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Sensfanjosh » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:47 am

Think I prefer Steve's side too, that 2nd should be decently high as well in a strong draft
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby cliff11 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:05 pm

nice trade guys
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby thom54 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:33 pm

love Hertl. Give him to me Steve
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby CasperX22 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:01 pm

Steve doin Steve things.
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Handsome&FairMike » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:04 pm

Ya probably a bit too much heading to Steve but that’s not atypical. Good deal
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Shoalzie » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:07 pm

I've also got Cal Petersen. You can debate who the better goalie prospect is. Point is very intriguing for sure. I'm not leaving myself completely naked with goalies.

It looks like a small upgrade considering what Hertl is doing this year. Nugent-Hopkins is a 3-time 50+ point producer compared to Hertl with a single season over 40. Nugent-Hopkins has three seasons over 500 FOW while Hertl has yet to crack 300. He will this year of course.

It does look like a breakthrough year for Hertl but I think this is a sell high spot and Nugent-Hopkins is a bit more proven. You can point to Nugent-Hopkins best years coming before McDavid arrived but it's a down year for the Oilers and he's going to eclipse last year's numbers. He's a quality #2 center and I need a bit more offense and FOW from that spot.

Talk about the added salary...I've got the cap room and as I said, Hertl is an RFA this summer. He'll get a raise.
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Sensfanjosh » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:16 pm

Shoalzie wrote:I've also got Cal Petersen. You can debate who the better goalie prospect is. Point is very intriguing for sure. I'm not leaving myself completely naked with goalies.

It looks like a small upgrade considering what Hertl is doing this year. Nugent-Hopkins is a 3-time 50+ point producer compared to Hertl with a single season over 40. Nugent-Hopkins has three seasons over 500 FOW while Hertl has yet to crack 300. He will this year of course.

It does look like a breakthrough year for Hertl but I think this is a sell high spot and Nugent-Hopkins is a bit more proven. You can point to Nugent-Hopkins best years coming before McDavid arrived but it's a down year for the Oilers and he's going to eclipse last year's numbers. He's a quality #2 center and I need a bit more offense and FOW from that spot.

Talk about the added salary...I've got the cap room and as I said, Hertl is an RFA this summer. He'll get a raise.


Not saying bad trade by any stretch, just it seems like a lot. As you pointed out RNH's best years were prior to McDavid coming, and they have Drai there now as well, if they are both 40 some point C's then you paid a good goalie prospect and traded a 2nd for a 3rd to get 200 FOW. It just seems like you take on a lot of the risk here and paid to do it.
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Da_Hawks » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:20 pm

I think one good advantage here is assurances in getting a C that will stay a C. Maybe Hertl plays too much wing and gets his C status removed one day (he is new to the position in the NHL at least). I doubt that ever happens with RNH. Small victories anyways.
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Matthew » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm

I don't mind this. I prefer nuge long term. Would have been nice to keep the 2nd is all.
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby Florida Chris » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:14 pm

I like this for both. Nice trade
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Re: LAK - DET

Postby hong57 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:55 pm

i prefer nuge long term too.. but it is also true that even you have a lot of cap room i think a lot of teams (like me) will have to unload a lot of cap and you can take huge advantage of it.. i mean HUGE.. but nevertheless it's a good trade and i prefer nuge if not for salary difference.
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